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Is Deadpool one of the few movie trilogies where every movie was an improvement?
Posted on 9/24/24 at 7:23 am
Posted on 9/24/24 at 7:23 am
I’ll preface by saying that I haven’t seen the 3rd one yet, but the 2nd is definitely better than the first and the 3rd appears to be loved as much if not more than the 2nd.
I know these movies aren’t for everyone, but kudos to the writers.
They really outdid themselves.
And Ryan Reynolds played every aspect of this trilogy about as perfectly as you could from a marketing campaign.
These movies have totaled almost $3 billion on a total budget of less than $400 million.
That is insane.
I know these movies aren’t for everyone, but kudos to the writers.
They really outdid themselves.
And Ryan Reynolds played every aspect of this trilogy about as perfectly as you could from a marketing campaign.
These movies have totaled almost $3 billion on a total budget of less than $400 million.
That is insane.
This post was edited on 9/24/24 at 7:27 am
Posted on 9/24/24 at 7:48 am to Scruffy
It's amazing how successful a movie can be when the person running cares deeply about the source material (you know, the stuff that actually made it popular enough to ever be considered as a movie in the first place).
The MCU up to WandaVision did this as well, as did the original Harry Potter movies, as did the Peter Jackson LoTR movies.
It's truly baffling (well, maybe not once you factor in egos) how Hollywood can continually take successful literary IPs, where all they have to do is slightly tweak literary-v-cinematic issues (like finding ways to express character motivations which were only explained by the narrator in books, for example) in order to have a hit, yet they continue to shoot themselves in the face (not just the foot) by changing it to how they would have written the story (Wheel of Time) or to inject some woke-ish bullshite (making Taskmaster female, for example). They then blame the audience for not liking their butchering of beloved materials and characters.
The MCU up to WandaVision did this as well, as did the original Harry Potter movies, as did the Peter Jackson LoTR movies.
It's truly baffling (well, maybe not once you factor in egos) how Hollywood can continually take successful literary IPs, where all they have to do is slightly tweak literary-v-cinematic issues (like finding ways to express character motivations which were only explained by the narrator in books, for example) in order to have a hit, yet they continue to shoot themselves in the face (not just the foot) by changing it to how they would have written the story (Wheel of Time) or to inject some woke-ish bullshite (making Taskmaster female, for example). They then blame the audience for not liking their butchering of beloved materials and characters.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 7:48 am to Scruffy
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but the 2nd is definitely better than the first and the 3rd appears to be loved as much if not more than the 2nd.
First one is better than the second. Haven't seen the third, but I don't get overly excited over call-backs and cameos (with the exception of Michael Keaton Batman in Flash).
Posted on 9/24/24 at 7:50 am to Scruffy
I didn't care much for the second one
Posted on 9/24/24 at 7:53 am to Scruffy
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but the 2nd is definitely better than the first
I respectfully disagree.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 7:55 am to Scruffy
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but the 2nd is definitely better than the first
People are disagreeing with you, but you're right here.
The 2nd was hilarious. The 1st was kind of a banal origin story that tried a lot more to be funny while the 2nd was a legitimate comedy.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 7:55 am to msap9020
I didn’t think there was such a consensus on 1 being better than 2.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 8:06 am to Bard
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(making Taskmaster female, for example)
And some kind of robot. What an utter failure. That character was one of the more intriguing ones from comics history.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 8:14 am to Scruffy
Cable and Juggernaut make the second one better than the first
The only thing going for the first Deadpool movie is that it is new and different.
Also with Taskmaster, I don't think that was a pure DEI deal. I think they legitimately believed it would be better if Taskmaster was the little girl so that it could be a situation where Black Widow "created" Taskmaster.
The only thing going for the first Deadpool movie is that it is new and different.
Also with Taskmaster, I don't think that was a pure DEI deal. I think they legitimately believed it would be better if Taskmaster was the little girl so that it could be a situation where Black Widow "created" Taskmaster.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 8:15 am to Scruffy
Jurassic Park, obviously. First one, pretty decent. Second one - improved on the first in every way, ending with the explosive romp through San Diego. Third one, brought back Sam Neill in a much more useful and interesting role, and tied in a much better "family overcomes adversity" plotline.
But other than that and the Godfather trilogy, I cant think of any others.
But other than that and the Godfather trilogy, I cant think of any others.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 8:20 am to Scruffy
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I didn’t think there was such a consensus on 1 being better than 2.
I like 1 better than 2, it hit that balance between action, creativity and comedy perfectly for me. It was the first legitimate introduction to the character for most movie-goers and it made a hell of an impression. You can only make a first impression once, everything after that either reinforces or changes that impression.
For me, 2 was more of an action movie with a lot of Deadpool comedy mixed in. This just comes down to personal choice as both movies are fantastic alone or together.
The 3rd was pure fan-servicing. The story was fun and I love the poetic justice of a character which was so utterly shite on and made into a throw-away by Hollywood's horrible and egotistic writing being re-written by someone who cares about the IP making it into such a hit that it's used to bridge universes.
For me, as a longtime fan of the comics, 1 and 3 are neck-and-neck (but I could easily see how 3 might not be the choice of those not familiar with the comics), with 2 only slightly behind them.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 8:26 am to Bard
As a person who was a big New Mutants/X-Force fan, I have to say how they completely retcon'd and changed Deadpool is still weird to me.
I wasn't around for the retcon and cult following and then 30 years later he's this big deal with the community and a completely different character than my elementary-school mind recalled.
I wasn't around for the retcon and cult following and then 30 years later he's this big deal with the community and a completely different character than my elementary-school mind recalled.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 8:33 am to Scruffy
I would say Deadpool is better than Deadpool 2 and Deadpool 3 is the best.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 8:43 am to Scruffy
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Posted on 9/24/24 at 8:45 am to rebelrouser
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Posted on 9/24/24 at 8:48 am to Sam Quint
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Posted on 9/24/24 at 8:53 am to OMLandshark
I’ll get some DVs here, but not sure if the 3rd one is going to hold up very long- it’s almost entirely built on the back of cameos and very specific and point in time in-references to stuff that you need deep level internet or marvel knowledge to grasp.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 9:23 am to Scruffy
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but the 2nd is definitely better than the first
going to have to disagree with you on this one
Posted on 9/24/24 at 9:25 am to SlowFlowPro
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As a person who was a big New Mutants/X-Force fan
Same here.
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I have to say how they completely retcon'd and changed Deadpool is still weird to me.
I wouldn't say it was so much retcon'd as it was that they just expanded on him
When he was first introduced, the idea was "homicidal Spiderman" (ie: a killing machine who constantly makes quips). He was initially a villain, but was so popular that they made him an anti-hero (a path trod a decade or so earlier by the Punisher).
Nicieza was working with Leifeld on New Mutants when it shut down and transitioned to X-Force, by this time DP was in the anti-hero camp. When Leifeld jumped ship to create Image, Nicieza took over the direction of DP, writing the first Deadpool solo venture: The Circle Chase which really showcases his "merc with a mouth" anti-hero persona. By the time Nicieza was canned, Mark Waid had written Sins of the Past which darkened DP a bit. In 1997, in his own series, Joe Kelly had Deadpool break the 4th wall for the first time and from there it went a little more absurdist.
This post was edited on 9/24/24 at 6:21 pm
Posted on 9/24/24 at 9:28 am to wildtigercat93
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I’ll get some DVs here, but not sure if the 3rd one is going to hold up very long- it’s almost entirely built on the back of cameos and very specific and point in time in-references to stuff that you need deep level internet or marvel knowledge to grasp.
Completely agree. It was a fun time at the movies, but the movie itself is not very good. Eventually, people will turn on it. That always seems to happen with these big blockbusters.
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