re: I think I know the theme of the MCU Phase 4

People will go see the familiar characters *with a good story*.


Batman in general will outdraw Ant Man or the Guardians because he is one of the single most recognizable comic book characters ever.

Batman And Robin (1997) may make a lot at the box office but, like The Last Jedi, would poison the series for people despite the grosses it made.

The Dark Knight or The Dark Knight Rises, by contrast, would make a ton of money and get people coming back for more.



The biggest problem out there right now for DC is that they have pretty much run certain stories into the ground and can’t use them again, as we have now had multiple origin movies for Batman and Superman. In addition, Nolan mined some of the more well received Batman stories (Long Halloween, Dark Knight Returns, Knightfall, No Man’s Land, Year One) to do his trilogy.

In theory, something like Suicide Squad should have let them do what Marvel did, which was to expand the universe to include some of their lesser known characters and build interest in them. That experiment failed for a couple of reasons, including a shite choice of story (Enchantress is NOT a starter villain, in part because her backstory is a horribly fricked up mess) and using the flashbacks with the Leto version of Joker without having him appear in the main story. Doing the first story from the 1980s series, where they take out a terrorist-for-hire metahuman team named Jihad would have been a better choice.

I find that the two animated Suicide Squad entries, Assault On Arkham and Hell To Pay, have a much better handle on the characters and the stories than the live action movie did.

I think the next Avengers movie will be set in space. Kree Skrull War more than likely. While the Avengers are gone you could do a Dark Avengers/Thunderbolts thing where they fill the vacuum of the missing Avengers. Who would be the leader? Ross maybe...becoming the Red Hulk?

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I'd love to see DC do an Adam Strange movie

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He's a character on the Krypton series on Sci-Fi. He also appears in the Young Justice series that's now on DC Universe.

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preferably from the earlier (mid sixties) version.

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We definitely don't want the dark Alan Moore take.

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Dude gets pulled to Alpha Centauri (or somewhere like that) by "Theta Waves".

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Pulled to Rann by a Zeta Beam. The ongoing twist was that as soon as he saved Rann from the monster of the week, the Zeta radiation ran out as he kissed Alanna goodbye. The next issue, he'd be running from Amazonian natives or leaping off of cliff to throw himself into the next scheduled Zeta Beam (which had been shot at Earth years prior).

He's one of many characters that are a direct take on John Carter of Mars (Earth man whisked away to another planet where he ends up as the champion of their world and the husband of their most beautiful woman).

The great thing about Adam Strange was that his "super-power" was his quick thinking. He had a rocket pack and a ray gun, but, other than those tools, he relied on his mind to come up with the solutions needed to win the day.

Adam Strange basically gives you the potential to have a Flash Gordon style of story, which if done right is tremendously fun. And since it's already integrated within the comic universe, they could translate over to film and technically keep it within the DCU.

It would be intriguing, as you probably enjoy the story by itself, and also come away wondering where this will cross over down the road. But you can leave that open-ended, and never really do the crossover, until you have the table set (like Marvel did with IW).

You guys realize Loki is alive, right? The whole new timeline thing is now going on.

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The Viper, zodiac, and Annillus

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Storylines with supervillian teams like Zodiac, the Masters of Evil, etc. were among my favorites. I'm not sure how well it would translate to the screen, but the Avengers v. Avengers fight at the airport was pretty cool and even the fights against Thanos' minions weren't bad.

It would be interesting to see an Avengers / Squadron Supreme meet up, but it might bring up some squabbles with DC over copyright stuff.

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From one movie my take is whatever the theme is it won't be as interesting.

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Please Dear Baby Jesus give me a Spider-Man/Deadpool team up movie before the Comic Book movie trend dies

I thought we were talking movies.

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Started watching the Netflix series but hated all of them. 
Iron Fist suxed 
Powerman suxed 
Jessica Jones was such an obscure character that couldn’t get into it. 
Watched the first 5 episodes of Daredevil and didn’t like it. 

Also Cloak and Dagger sux 
Arrow was on to long 
The Flash went off the rail about 2 years ago 
DC Legends was always to campy 
Shield has just had bad writing and a rudderless direction since day one. 
I couldn’t wait for Doom Patrol but the whole goat thing was just to weird to watch. 

The only comic superhero stories I watch are 
Krypton 
Titans 
Young Justice 
Legion 

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no one asked.

you sure spend a lot of time watching shows that you don't watch...