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Posted on 4/21/22 at 11:02 am to abellsujr
They should have saved the flooding for the next film. That whole sequence was very rushed because the film was already running for too long.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 11:14 am to JakeFromStateFarm
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This isn’t just a DC problem. It’s a Hollywood problem.
True. Everything gets rehashed, then race/gender swapped and rehashed again.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 11:14 am to Pandy Fackler
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The movie was paced poorly, low on action, low on script development, the cinematography was bad, the movie was lit very poorly. Constant rain is a lazy substitute for good scene production. The movie was just dull.
All of this. The script was shite. The lighting was worse. The acting was unremarkable. And the movie wasn't fun.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 11:23 am to Pandy Fackler
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But since it's a bit of a shite movie
I mean it’s pretty clear you are exaggerating this because of how triggered that statement made you. If you ever wanted to see a detective style Batman and more comic book accurate, this was a good one.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 11:29 am to finchmeister08
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bruh, that's more than just "1 city block".
All they showed was ankle deep water on one street and by the next morning the water was gone and they were cleaning up. Again if they had cut out the fluff in the beginning and middle, maybe they could have expounded more on the flood and make it seem like a bigger threat.
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i guess all of new orleans was "1 city block" when katrina hit, too?
The destruction of Katrina was very well captured by pictures and videos of the event. People knew it was bad because they could SEE the destruction. Where were those types of scenes in the movie?
Posted on 4/21/22 at 11:33 am to SECSolomonGrundy
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The movie was paced poorly, low on action, low on script development, the cinematography was bad, the movie was lit very poorly. Constant rain is a lazy substitute for good scene production. The movie was just dull.
All of this. The script was shite. The lighting was worse. The acting was unremarkable. And the movie wasn't fun.
That's really it. There just wasn't anything captivating about it.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 11:37 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:the retards on the board never cease to amaze me. While the move was long and the last act was out of place, the pacing of the move was great. It was the real detective Batman we have never seen in screen.
The first 1/3 or so of this movie was the best-directed portion of a Batman movie ever, imho. It really hit the tones perfectly.
It's funny how this board bitches and moans about too much action and when a movie gets to the core of a character, they bitch and moan about too boring and need more action.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 11:43 am to CarRamrod
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It's funny how this board bitches and moans about too much action and when a movie gets to the core of a character, they bitch and moan about too boring and need more action.
+1
Posted on 4/21/22 at 11:49 am to Pandy Fackler
quote:I mean, it's a comic book flick. They all suck.
I just finished The Batman and it sucked.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 11:53 am to GeauxHouston
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But since it's a bit of a shite movie
I mean it’s pretty clear you are exaggerating this because of how triggered that statement made you. If you ever wanted to see a detective style Batman and more comic book accurate, this was a good one.
It's a bit of a shite movie. What's to exaggerate?
I think me and just a few others in the thread are the only ones who aren't triggered.
To answer your question, no. I've never wanted to see a detective Batman. I don't give a shite about comic books. I don't read those. But if you're gonna make Batman into a PI, like Magnum or whatever, then just make a good movie. It wasn't a good movie. I don't care if Batman is a private detective or not.
The other guy was right. This would've made a better tv show than movie.
This post was edited on 4/21/22 at 11:55 am
Posted on 4/21/22 at 12:40 pm to Pandy Fackler
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But if you're gonna make Batman into a PI, like Magnum or whatever, then just make a good movie.
Batman stories were literally printed under the comic book title "Detective Comics." There is no "or whatever". He is a detective. If you didn't know this, you are not a Batman fan which invalidates your right to critique a character you know nothing about.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 12:44 pm to Pandy Fackler
I liked the movie but I can see how someone wouldn't for the reasons you stated. Right after I watched it I stated in the other thread, that it might be the best complete Batman movie. Think I'm backing down from that statement now. Also realizing that I don't have much interest in re-watching it. I did like the movie though and the cast was great.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 12:51 pm to Pandy Fackler
While I certainly agree with some of the shortcomings that have been mentioned here, I really have been wanting to see a detective-centric Batman movie for some time. This was that, and there was enough action (fighting sequences, car chase, showdown with the Riddler's followers at the end) to satisfy that need as well.
Yes, it was slow paced, but if this was a movie that you perceived as "bad" or that "sucked," I think you may be judging a bit too harshly. It was something that we haven't gotten from a Batman file previously, and I didn't have to sit through some Joel Shummacher, man-arse and nipple focused, Bane is an imbecile, tripe.
There is always room for improvement, even with the Nolan films. If this wasn't your cup of tea, cool. I'm a fan of the Nolan films as well as this one, the Burton films, the Adam West series, the original serials, and TAS. You don't have to shite on something to be the popular poster...Except for George Clooney. That should definitely be crapped upon.
Just move along and don't start a whole new thread that isn't necessary.
For those who say this was more like a TV series, well, it is setting up the Penguin HBO Max series. So, some of what was in the movie was probably included for that purpose, which may have hurt the film. Yes, there were multiple places the movie could have ended, but to say it "sucked" is over the top.
Yes, it was slow paced, but if this was a movie that you perceived as "bad" or that "sucked," I think you may be judging a bit too harshly. It was something that we haven't gotten from a Batman file previously, and I didn't have to sit through some Joel Shummacher, man-arse and nipple focused, Bane is an imbecile, tripe.
There is always room for improvement, even with the Nolan films. If this wasn't your cup of tea, cool. I'm a fan of the Nolan films as well as this one, the Burton films, the Adam West series, the original serials, and TAS. You don't have to shite on something to be the popular poster...Except for George Clooney. That should definitely be crapped upon.
Just move along and don't start a whole new thread that isn't necessary.
For those who say this was more like a TV series, well, it is setting up the Penguin HBO Max series. So, some of what was in the movie was probably included for that purpose, which may have hurt the film. Yes, there were multiple places the movie could have ended, but to say it "sucked" is over the top.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 1:10 pm to Michael T. Tiger
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There is always room for improvement, even with the Nolan films. If this wasn't your cup of tea, cool. I'm a fan of the Nolan films as well as this one, the Burton films, the Adam West series, the original serials, and TAS. You don't have to shite on something to be the popular poster...Except for George Clooney. That should definitely be crapped upon.
You really think I'm popular? Thanks for that.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 1:15 pm to LSUFreek
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Batman stories were literally printed under the comic book title "Detective Comics." There is no "or whatever". He is a detective. If you didn't know this, you are not a Batman fan which invalidates your right to critique a character you know nothing about.
That's just dumb man, honestly.
I don't care about the comic book. I'm criticizing the movie. If this is the best Private investigator Batman they could come up with, then ok. It was a dull effort.
Anyway, he was a shitty frickin' detective because Alfred did half is job for him.
This post was edited on 4/21/22 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 4/21/22 at 1:47 pm to SlowFlowPro
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TDK has always been overrated.
Signed, a guy who took a lot of shite for posting that opening night on here at like 3am after watching the midnight premier.
You want a cookie for having a dumb fricking opinion early?
Posted on 4/21/22 at 2:09 pm to Pandy Fackler
The funeral scene where there’s zero dialogue from Bruce Wayne leading up to the SUV crashing through was the best scene from the movie but after that it all went down hill.
I’ll say it again, the Riddler is a weak villain and he’s boring. His whole rant at the end to Batman was suppose to be some kind of unforgettable scene that we’d talk about for years and it was just forgettable. Also didn’t care for the mob guy tie in that took up 3/4 of the movie. I like the universe of this Batman but didn’t care at all for the story.
I’ll say it again, the Riddler is a weak villain and he’s boring. His whole rant at the end to Batman was suppose to be some kind of unforgettable scene that we’d talk about for years and it was just forgettable. Also didn’t care for the mob guy tie in that took up 3/4 of the movie. I like the universe of this Batman but didn’t care at all for the story.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 2:17 pm to LNCHBOX
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You want a cookie for having a dumb fricking opinion early?
Dumb?
TDK is accepted as not nearly holding up after the initial buzz. It's not bad, but severely flawed and nowhere near great overall.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 2:20 pm to hg
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The funeral scene where there’s zero dialogue from Bruce Wayne leading up to the SUV crashing through was the best scene from the movie but after that it all went down hill.
The shot where it looked like Riddler was on the balcony was $$$$$$
They had a good noire/horror thing going until that point
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Riddler is a weak villain and he’s boring. His whole rant at the end to Batman was suppose to be some kind of unforgettable scene that we’d talk about for years and it was just forgettable. Also didn’t care for the mob guy tie in that took up 3/4 of the movie. I like the universe of this Batman but didn’t care at all for the story.
Yeah they could have done better. Also making his dad a baddy-lite hurts the natural development of Bruce and batman.
The Riddler could have been a better villain and emphasized the detective part, but they invested too much elsewhere (like the mob stuff and the post-arrest event). This is a movie where carte blanche ultimately hurts it. There should have been a 2:15-2:30 limit to force Reeves to be creative and efficient with the story.
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