re: House of the Dragon: S2 Episode 8 “The Queen Who Ever Was.” (SPOILERS)

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Shocking you’re here defending this show too just like the acolyte.

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Oh you defended the Acolyte? You're too easy of an audience. I kind of respect it honestly. I wish I could just enjoy shows for what they are without noticing the issues. That sounds like a dig but its really not, I am being honest. I love the Westeros world and want to just like the show and still have high hopes for the future of the world.

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They made it clear they were sworn to both

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They were only sworn to Daemon because he is Rhaenyra's vassal. They made it appear as though they were just going to follow along with Daemon's choice when she asked.

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You're too easy of an audience. I kind of respect it honestly. I wish I could just enjoy shows for what they are without noticing the issues. That sounds like a dig but its really not, I am being honest

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I don't think it's a dig. I just watch the shows and take them in for what was created and try not to worry how the relate to the lore or how they match up with what I read in the books

The show is it's own thing. I've already experienced the books

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They made it clear they were sworn to both

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Clear seems like a strong word here. The entire time he was in the Riverlands, the show pointed out that they weren't behind Daemon.

- The Brackens chose death over him
- They kept calling him King Consort even though he asked to just say King
- Oscar literally told him they are on Rhaenyra's side not because of Daemon but because they swore an oath to Viserys.

I could hear an argument that somehow the Riverlords respected Daemon after he beheaded the Blackwood, but they never showed us that. He went from a potential mutiny if he didn't do as Oscar asked to the next time we see him and the Rivermen together, they are acting like they are following his lead on what to do with Rhaenyra.

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Most people voted for Joe Biden. Being on the side of most should be a clear sign you're doing something wrong

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FWIW this is the crap Chicken was talking about that he wanted off the board. Theres simple agreements and disagreements about the quality of the show. Nothing wrong with that.

And then bam, someone brings up Biden as a completely irrelevant and unnecessary political straw man.

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We had multiple showdowns in the final episode alone.

Alyn and Corlyss

Rhaenyra and Daemon.

Rhaenyra and Alicent

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Alyn and Corlyss: We don't care about these characters tho and the dock scenes have been painful to watch all season. They are objectively bad scenes.

Rhaenyra and Daemon: This was good

Rhaenyra and Alicent: I have no idea why they ran back the same scene from earlier in the season. It was also just a dumb ridiculous scene.

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Alyn and Corlyss: We don't care about these characters tho and the dock scenes have been painful to watch all season. They are objectively bad scenes.

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The actor did such a great job with that scene that it made me care

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I mean, did u watch the season?

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They didn't know rhaenyra, they were sworn to Daemon at that point.

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Rhaenyra and Daemon: This was good

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Was this actually a good scene? It seemed really cheesy to me. The whole "For our Queen" bit was just not Game of Thrones like. I agree that having Daemon swear his loyalty was good but the scene itself wasn't great imo. The poor writing was an issue all season long. The dialogue was too predictable and lacked any depth.

I get that the budget had issues but they really need to do a better job of plot and character development. They just defied logic for the sake of "good shots" too often. Off the top of my head:

1) Rhaenyra sneaking into KL to talk to Alicent. - unlikely to be successful and a stupid risk for Rhaenyra. Also stupid of Alicent to let her walk away knowing her children will die in the war and she could end it right there by calling for guards.

2) Rhaenys having the ability to escape Rooks rest TWICE and going back to die anyway. Knowing the big dragons with riders were in short supply, it was stupid of her to go back. I understand that its where she died in the book so make the scene to where she can't escape and decides to fight tooth and nail, not that she chose to be stupid in the name of bravery.

3) Team black sending food to the common folk. I also realize that it was meant to be a propaganda move by Rhaenyra but it kind of defeats the whole purpose of the blockade. They are blocking trade because they want KL to starve and weaken the greens. Sending food into a siege is just dumb. What exactly are they blocking?

4) The kissing scene. It literally had nothing to do with the story and was never mentioned again. It was literally a lesbian actress being attracted to the other actress and forcing a kiss out of no where. When Fracis Ford Coppola force kisses actresses its a crime but when a trans actress does it, its art.

5) The final scene of Ep 7 when Rhaenyra and her new Dragon seeds are all perched and Vhagar runs. Its just dumb on many fronts. One they could easily chase down Vhagar who is known for being Huge but slow. They have numbers and could swarm the big dragon and kill it which would essentially end the Greens. Instead they allow Aemond to know they have new dragons and runa away to plan accordingly.

6) Alicent going to Dragon stone to talk to Rhaenyra again. Once again it was stupid. Why would Rhaenyra let her leave? Just imprison her and you have a bargaining chip. I'm sure Aemond would just let Alicent die but at the very least, you take a rational thinker away from the greens side.

I am sure there are more examples of defying logic for the sake of the shots but these are all examples of things that didn't happen in season 1 and definitely didn't happen in the first 6 seasons of GOT. When GOT got bad was when they started doing illogical things for the sake of cool shots.

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it’s ridiculous that they are black in the first place, and they functionally disappear after this. There are no stakes.

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I had this reaction initially, but I actually think it is helpful now. Whenever a Velaryon walks in, we know it. If they had made them look similar to Targaryens, the confusion would be even higher on who is who.