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re: House of the Dragon S1E8: “Lord of the Tides”--Official Thread

Posted on 10/10/22 at 9:25 am to
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 10/10/22 at 9:25 am to
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assumed when it was happening that the drink was poison, but since there was no follow up maybe it was just plan B tea and she let her go.



Posted by lostinbr
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Posted on 10/10/22 at 9:26 am to
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Dude who plays Aymond the one eye guy I think is same actor who played Osferth in the last kingdom. Name is Ewan Mitchell

Ah shite now I can’t unsee it.
Posted by BOSCEAUX
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Posted on 10/10/22 at 9:27 am to
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Rhaenyra now has five children and is pregnant with her sixth. From Harwin Strong: Jacaerys (who she calls Jay) Lucerys (who she calls Luc)


So Rhaenyra with the original travel ball names.
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
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Posted on 10/10/22 at 9:31 am to
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This damn Aegon needs to be on the registry


The libs now say that criminal registries are discriminatory and unethical...
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 10/10/22 at 10:01 am to
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Jace


It autocorrected on me.

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Luke


Luc is pronounced the same way.
Posted by ladygoodman
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Posted on 10/10/22 at 10:13 am to
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Paddy Considine has acted his arse off in this. Really hope he gets some awards love for it.



He really distinguished himself in this episode. The pain, the determination, his desire for peace among the family -- all were portrayed beautifully. His walk to the throne was a masterpiece.

And dammmmmmnnnnnn, Aemond appears to be the only person that will approach and possibly supercede Daemon as baddest arse in the show, but he has a way to go to beat that head-choppin'. Matthew Smith is continuing to knock it out of the park, even when he says almost nothing.

Vaemond was a fool. Not wrong, but a fool. No way you live after that display.

Daemon's mistress is giving me Melisandre vibes for some reason.

Every time I hear "Prince That Was Promised" I am pissed at GoT again.



Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 10/10/22 at 10:20 am to
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Vaemond was a fool. Not wrong, but a fool. No way you live after that display.


Highly recommend the after-show clip on HBOMax for anyone who has access. The actor has some great commentary on the character and how it went down.
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 10/10/22 at 10:22 am to
He wasn't a fool. He wasn't going to live as a second son, fading out of existence. He knew he was on borrowed time and decided to go out like a boss.
Posted by Sus-Scrofa
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Posted on 10/10/22 at 10:29 am to
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He wasn't a fool. He wasn't going to live as a second son, fading out of existence. He knew he was on borrowed time and decided to go out like a boss.


Pure speculation, but maybe he learned that his brother was just fine and this is his last ditch effort to turn him against Rhaenyra.
Posted by JumpingTheShark
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Posted on 10/10/22 at 10:57 am to
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Not a lore expert, but pretty sure the promised king is John Snow (Aegon) in the Song of Ice and Fire prophecy, who would lead the seven kingdoms against the night king and the long night. But D&D fracked that all up because Martin was too freaking lazy to finish his series.


It has not really been resolved or made explicit in the books yet, but there are strong hints for several characters, particularly Jon and Dany.
Posted by Saskwatch
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Posted on 10/10/22 at 11:22 am to
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I thought it was just moon tea. Why would she pay her off if she was killing her?


So she wouldn't be suspicious of drinking the tea. Alicent is ruthless. Killing and making people disappear is the only way to silence the negative comments that could be made about the potential future King.

Thought it was wild how everyone was so quick to go and petition Alicent and Otto for Seadrift when Sea Snake hasn't even died yet. Weird that there isn't more of the family around to tell the uncle/brother to chill the frick out. He wasn't wrong though. He would have the most experience and capability as commander of the fleet.
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Posted by SG_Geaux
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Posted on 10/10/22 at 11:23 am to
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Not a lore expert, but pretty sure the promised king is John Snow (Aegon) in the Song of Ice and Fire prophecy, who would lead the seven kingdoms against the night king and the long night. But D&D fracked that all up because Martin was too freaking lazy to finish his series.


Maybe they will fix it with the new Jon Snow series
Posted by SammyTiger
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 10/10/22 at 11:33 am to
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So she wouldn't be suspicious of drinking the tea.


I mean… dead women don’t need morning after tea and you don’t need to poison her to make her “disappear.”
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 10/10/22 at 11:35 am to
I thought that it was just plan B tea.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 10/10/22 at 11:43 am to
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I'm interested to see where Team Alicent now stands given her complicity in Aegon's rape and seeming murder of Aegon's servant victim.


I am totally with Alicent and have been during the whole show. I thought the girl was given an abortive type of drink. The rape is horrible. But I'd think a prince could have sex with his servants whenever he wanted. They are usually slaves. Only looks bad through a modern lens. His mom chastised him pretty good. But they should have means to satisfy his urges (dedicated sex workers).

Alicent really has no choice in all of this. Once the King dies, there will be war. Her kids would be murdered and her line whipped out. They are fighting for survival and her son is the rightful hier.

I don't understand why the Princess wants the thrown or why she didn't abdicate to protect her children. They are part Targaryen no matter what. Would have entitled lives. It seems like it is setting up the new princes, new kids with Daemon, as the true heirs now..
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 10/10/22 at 11:46 am to
I'm now fully convinced you are nothing more than a contrarian troll lol
Posted by brmark70816
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Posted on 10/10/22 at 11:53 am to
Huh? I just binged and caught up on the show. Do most people hate Alicent or think she is in the wrong?

When the King dies, wouldn't a big portion of the lords recognize Alicent and her heirs as the legitimate line? There would be a war. Right?
Posted by Jebadeb
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 10/10/22 at 11:53 am to
Really good episode. But it's kind of funny that everyone kind of just went on with their day after Vaemond was brutally killed in from of the entire court.

Anyway, I think the episode did a fairly good job of setting the course for each of the "children". It's a little hard to keep up with all of them, though.
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 10/10/22 at 11:57 am to
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everyone kind of just went on with their day after Vaemond was brutally killed in from of the entire court.


Rhaenys made it clear she was backing Rhaenyra and Lucerys. That was the only other Velaryon there. The guards he came there with probably chose to stand down once they saw which way the acting head of house Rhaenys was for.
Posted by Saskwatch
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Posted on 10/10/22 at 11:59 am to
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wouldn't a big portion of the lords recognize Alicent and her heirs as the legitimate line?


Only traitors to the Crown. Viserys made very public shows about him naming Rhaenyra as heir and never once reneged on that decision.
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