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re: House of the Dragon S1E7: “Driftmark”--Official Thread
Posted on 10/3/22 at 10:03 am to Peter167
Posted on 10/3/22 at 10:03 am to Peter167
Let's be honest. In this world, there are no really good guys save for a few such as Strong when he was Hand of the King. The King is another good guy. Unfortunately in this world, being good gets you run over or killed. Period. Remember those people the Hound hooked up with? Nice folks and they all got butchered. That is this world.
Its fun watching the debate back and forth here because that is to be expected when GRRM intentionally writes his characters in the gray.
You can also tell the show is picking up steam because we are already up to what, a dozen pages now this early in the morning?
Damn, I missed a good GOT fight. Welcome back, my friends.
Its fun watching the debate back and forth here because that is to be expected when GRRM intentionally writes his characters in the gray.
You can also tell the show is picking up steam because we are already up to what, a dozen pages now this early in the morning?
Damn, I missed a good GOT fight. Welcome back, my friends.
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Posted on 10/3/22 at 10:03 am to Yeti_Chaser
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Can anyone explain the dynamics of the kingsguard? Cole is sworn to Alicient and her commands take precedence over the king? That can't be right?
Well that was Cole's response, that he was her sworn PROTECTOR but doesn't just do whatever she says.
Posted on 10/3/22 at 10:05 am to Yeti_Chaser
So did Aemond lie to cover for Alicent when he pointed the finger at Aegon for telling him Rheynearas kids were bastards?
Posted on 10/3/22 at 10:06 am to sahikojones
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Literacy is not your strong suit is it?
After their deaths, Larys admitted to Alicent he had orchestrated their murder. The same way Cole admitted to Alicent that he (AN ADULT) had slept with the princess (who, at the time, was a CHILD). She should have turned both of their asses in, but she didn't because it benefitted her to keep her mouth shut about their crimes.
its sad that you're not smart enough to realize that clubfoot was blackmailing her. alicent knows she has to play the long game and keep that guy happy or he will screw her over or liekly even kill her.
regarding cole, turning him over to the king would be something a dumb person like Ned Stark would do. she had no allies nor leverage in court at the time with Otto being dismissed, so her letting cole go and bringing him to her side was a stroke of genius.
man, all of the morons are on team black...this is gonne be easy for the greens
Posted on 10/3/22 at 10:07 am to Yeti_Chaser
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Can anyone explain the dynamics of the kingsguard? Cole is sworn to Alicient and her commands take precedence over the king? That can't be right?
No, when she told him to remove the eye of one of Rhaenyra's kids he told her that he was sworn to protect her, not to carry out all of her demands.
Posted on 10/3/22 at 10:08 am to BomBayTiger
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So did Aemond lie to cover for Alicent when he pointed the finger at Aegon for telling him Rheynearas kids were bastards?
I'm sure it was commonly spoken in their household so it probably wasn't a lie necessarily. But Aemond was on a power surge so he may have chosen to blame Aegon instead of Alicient to improve his position
Posted on 10/3/22 at 10:10 am to Yeti_Chaser
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Let's get a dragon count. I don't know the dragons names so I'm just listing the characters that have dragons.
Team Alicient:
Aegon
Aemond
Creepy sister?
Team Rhaenyra:
Rhaenyra
Daemon
Bastard 1
Bastard 2
One of Daemons mixed daughters
Neutral:
Visenya. She doesn't seem to want any part of this. It'll be interesting to see if she can convince Corlys to stay out of it. Or if he joins Daemon or convinces any of the bastards or his grandchildren to leave Daemon
Aegon: Sunfyre
Aemond: Vhagar
Helaena: Dreamfyre
Rhaenyra: Syrax
Daemon: Caraxes
Jacerys: Vermax
Joffrey: TBD
Baela: Moondancer
Rhaena: TBD
Rhaenys: Meleys
Laenor: Seasmoke
ETA because I forgot him: Rhaneyra's son Lucerys, and his dragon Arrax
This post was edited on 10/3/22 at 10:21 am
Posted on 10/3/22 at 10:11 am to prplhze2000
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Let's be honest. In this world, there are no really good guys save for a few such as Strong when he was Hand of the King. The King is another good guy. Unfortunately in this world, being good gets you run over or killed. Period. Remember those people the Hound hooked up with? Nice folks and they all got butchered. That is this world.
Its fun watching the debate back and forth here because that is to be expected when GRRM intentionally writes his characters in the gray.
You can also tell the show is picking up steam because we are already up to what, a dozen pages now this early in the morning?
Damn, I missed a good GOT fight. Welcome back, my friends.
I think much like GoT, the people you root for are those that mostly, or exclusively, choose violent immoral acts only as a necessity or out of survival/justice, and not as a selfish act to ascertain greater station/power.
Which is why Tyrion/Varys are sympathetic in a way Littlefinger is not. Why Rhaenyra is increasingly becoming the consensus viewer preference and Alicent is losing supporters by the episode.
This post was edited on 10/3/22 at 10:16 am
Posted on 10/3/22 at 10:13 am to Yeti_Chaser
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I'm sure it was commonly spoken in their household so it probably wasn't a lie necessarily. But Aemond was on a power surge so he may have chosen to blame Aegon instead of Alicient to improve his position
Aegon is a shite, and is always fricking with Aemond (the pig joke), so Aemond was like I can frick over my brother here
And yeah, it's not like it's some secret thing that only a couple people have said, he probably could've named a dozen people who have talked about the kids being bastards.
Posted on 10/3/22 at 10:14 am to Boodis Man
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its sad that you're not smart enough to realize that clubfoot was blackmailing her. alicent knows she has to play the long game and keep that guy happy or he will screw her over or liekly even kill her.
regarding cole, turning him over to the king would be something a dumb person like Ned Stark would do. she had no allies nor leverage in court at the time with Otto being dismissed, so her letting cole go and bringing him to her side was a stroke of genius.
man, all of the morons are on team black...this is gonne be easy for the greens
This moron: Go team Alicent! Cause she is honorable, moral, and dutiful
Also this moron: *Lists all the ways she is constantly dishonorable, immoral, and abdicating her duties*
Do you even think before you hit send lol?
Posted on 10/3/22 at 10:17 am to sahikojones
Missing Lucerys and his dragon TBD
Posted on 10/3/22 at 10:18 am to Bronc
I'm pretty certain that he's trolling
Posted on 10/3/22 at 10:19 am to Epic Cajun
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Aegon is a shite, and is always fricking with Aemond (the pig joke), so Aemond was like I can frick over my brother here
And his brother was too stupid to put the blame on someone else in a way that would be advantageous to him, which doesn't bode well for Alicent and Otto's plans to make him king. All of the options in the world and he goes 'JFC dad everyone knows lol'.
Posted on 10/3/22 at 10:20 am to Epic Cajun
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Missing Lucerys and his dragon TBD
Oops I'll go back and add it. Too many damn kids
Posted on 10/3/22 at 10:20 am to Epic Cajun
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I'm pretty certain that he's trolling
He's been too in his feels this morning about how much of a whore Rhaenyra is for her consensual sex and Alicent this great dutiful patriarchal wife to not be serious in thinking he is making good points
Posted on 10/3/22 at 10:23 am to Bronc
The fact there is this much division and you all are lining up for Team Green or Team Black, just like the episode, shows how good HoD is. Dang good episode.
I like Alicent. Of everything that she has done the only thing I question and where she made a mistake is when she turned down the marriage offer that would have binded the houses. She had legit reasons for that, because R's kids are bastards, and she wasn't about to marry one of her true blood kids off to a bastard. So I understand her character.
At the same time I like Rhaenyra. I understand what her struggles have been being married to her gay husband who can't produce. Being named a Queen heir that half the Realm won't accept. She's in a tough spot too.
That's why this show is so good. Personally like it better than GoT because it's not so expansive. It's a war between families, keeps the story tight which improves the quality, IMO.
I like Alicent. Of everything that she has done the only thing I question and where she made a mistake is when she turned down the marriage offer that would have binded the houses. She had legit reasons for that, because R's kids are bastards, and she wasn't about to marry one of her true blood kids off to a bastard. So I understand her character.
At the same time I like Rhaenyra. I understand what her struggles have been being married to her gay husband who can't produce. Being named a Queen heir that half the Realm won't accept. She's in a tough spot too.
That's why this show is so good. Personally like it better than GoT because it's not so expansive. It's a war between families, keeps the story tight which improves the quality, IMO.
Posted on 10/3/22 at 10:30 am to SoDakHawk
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I question and where she made a mistake is when she turned down the marriage offer that would have binded the houses.
Thats a pretty big one considering it's the literal difference between two generations of peace between the most powerful houses and further escalation towards protracted Civil War.
I too can sympathize with Alicent's situation, she got a raw deal in life(at least as far as being uber nobility can suck) it's just hard to root for her after that. She chose trying to satisfy her selfish desire to punish Rheanyra for her own jealousies and vindictiveness instead of sowing for lasting peace.
The fact that boiled over into her frustrations being interpreted as a green light for Larys to carry out a massacre and she cozies up to him afterwards. After wanting to cut the eye out of a child without even bothering to determine context/fault. Her ability to remain sympathetic wains by the epsiode IMO
This post was edited on 10/3/22 at 10:36 am
Posted on 10/3/22 at 10:34 am to BluegrassBelle
That was probably my least favorite episode. Laena's funeral was so bad and stretched out way too long. The kid acting dragged it down a bit. The Valeryon kids are so bad. But they said it was the very first scene they filmed for the show so it makes sense that the emotions and acting didn't fit well with the situation.
Alicent has just become a color blind idiot. I think any other king other than Viserys would have had Alicent thrown out into the street or killed. You can't attempt to kill the kings daughter, heir to the thrown, much less in front of everyone, and not be punished. And of course her dad thinks it was a good thing.
Still the best show on TV right now, but that was a weak episode. Aegon riding Vhagar was one of the better dragon riding part on this and GoT combined. That was really good. Felt more like what riding a dragon would be like. Old and all, she is still a badass dragon.
Alicent has just become a color blind idiot. I think any other king other than Viserys would have had Alicent thrown out into the street or killed. You can't attempt to kill the kings daughter, heir to the thrown, much less in front of everyone, and not be punished. And of course her dad thinks it was a good thing.
Still the best show on TV right now, but that was a weak episode. Aegon riding Vhagar was one of the better dragon riding part on this and GoT combined. That was really good. Felt more like what riding a dragon would be like. Old and all, she is still a badass dragon.
Posted on 10/3/22 at 10:44 am to hg
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At the rate of how fast this season is moving it feels like there will only be one season
I literally had this same thought. Doubt it goes past a second season
Posted on 10/3/22 at 10:46 am to WicKed WayZ
Others have mentioned it, but in terms of the arc of the overall story, we are still in the prologue/set up.
Supposedly they actually considered starting the story later in the timeline but thought they needed this set up.
Supposedly they actually considered starting the story later in the timeline but thought they needed this set up.
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