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re: House of the Dragon S1E6: “The Princess and the Queen”--Official Thread
Posted on 9/26/22 at 11:10 am to SlimTigerSlap
Posted on 9/26/22 at 11:10 am to SlimTigerSlap
It was pretty heavily implied in this episode it is going to the kid who was bullied by the others and got the "pig" as his dragon. Just makes sense
That's my take but I'm not sure if that's verified
That's my take but I'm not sure if that's verified
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Posted on 9/26/22 at 11:11 am to Bronc
Funny that we have a lord of the rings show and a new star wars show and nobody gives a shite because house of the dragon is kicking their asses.
And people said noone cared about game of thrones anymore because of how it ended.
And people said noone cared about game of thrones anymore because of how it ended.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 11:12 am to jflsufan
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I am curious as to why they keep showing that rat? Is it a deal like on Survivor that every time they show a snake someone is about to get stabbed in the back?
Visual metaphor about the decay of Visery's reign
Posted on 9/26/22 at 11:12 am to Yeti_Chaser
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Well considering they just had a scene where Laena's daughter was upset that she doesn't have a dragon yet, it seems logical that that dragon will end up being hers
Oh I was thinking it would go to the boy who got the pig
Posted on 9/26/22 at 11:15 am to Buckeye06
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It was pretty heavily implied in this episode it is going to the kid who was bullied by the others and got the "pig" as his dragon. Just makes sense
That's my take but I'm not sure if that's verified
But it doesnt just work like that, a dragon that loses it's rider would need to choose to take another rider.
I would imagine Laena's daughter is also in the best position to endear herself to it. Plus cant remeber if the daughter was in the scene or not when they announced Laena's dragon had disappeared.
This post was edited on 9/26/22 at 11:16 am
Posted on 9/26/22 at 11:17 am to Bronc
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a dragon that loses it's rider would need to choose to take another rider.
And that's a massive dragon. Way bigger than Daemon's.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 11:43 am to Bronc
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And now her paranoia and resentment is creating a self reinforcing vicious cycle that is all but driving the realm to an inevitable open war. Where she had a amicable solution to the conflict that would ensure the safety and cooperation of both houses in Rhaenyra's marriage proposal, but scoffed at it because she essentially wants to "own her" and make her suffer. It's petty and despite claims of caring for her children, she's actively endangering them now with her desire to punish Rhaenyra and satisfy her resentments and jealousy.
Right, you could maybe argue that she is just doing what needs to be done to protect her family before she just flat out turned down Rhaenyra’s offer to unite their families. That would’ve solved most of the issues that she afraid of.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 11:45 am to Epic Cajun
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Right, you could maybe argue that she is just doing what needs to be done to protect her family before she just flat out turned down Rhaenyra’s offer to unite their families. That would’ve solved most of the issues that she afraid of.
Yep, I think that is a crucial scene into seeing what is truly driving Alicent, and making utterly clear protecting her children is not the primary driver of her behavior.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 11:49 am to Corinthians420
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Funny that we have a lord of the rings show and a new star wars show and nobody gives a shite because house of the dragon is kicking their asses.
Speak for yourself.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 11:49 am to DirtyDawg
They stole that scene from succession because ppl laughed at it. And the decline continues.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 11:57 am to Bronc
She’s a Kunt because Olivia Cooke only plays kunts. Young Alicent was wise beyond her years, pragmatic and kind so she’s done a total 180 with a simple actress change. But then again the entire show is on its head now.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 12:01 pm to Epic Cajun
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Right, you could maybe argue that she is just doing what needs to be done to protect her family before she just flat out turned down Rhaenyra’s offer to unite their families. That would’ve solved most of the issues that she afraid of.
That and she and everyone else knows that the boy is a bastard child.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 12:01 pm to Madking
Cool, so we can expect you to no longer watch/post/whine about the show going forward in these episode threads?
Posted on 9/26/22 at 12:03 pm to JesusQuintana
As Bronc stated earlier, it’s still half Targaryen, same as Alicent’s kids.
ETA: regardless, if she fears Rhaenyra and what she might do to keep the throne, she could’ve eliminated that threat. She didn’t say she feared Daemon, her fear is that Rhaenyra will try to kill her kids to eliminate their threat to the throne. Rhaenyra clearly wouldn’t do that if their children were betrothed to each other. Fear isn’t motivating her, power and vengeance is.
ETA: regardless, if she fears Rhaenyra and what she might do to keep the throne, she could’ve eliminated that threat. She didn’t say she feared Daemon, her fear is that Rhaenyra will try to kill her kids to eliminate their threat to the throne. Rhaenyra clearly wouldn’t do that if their children were betrothed to each other. Fear isn’t motivating her, power and vengeance is.
This post was edited on 9/26/22 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 9/26/22 at 12:12 pm to Buckeye06
I just had a realization that’s going to get overlooked… Haleana, Alicents weird daughter playing with the centipede and spouting off prophecies is clearly a seer, which is a pretty common Targ trait. One of the last things she said is “the last ring has no legs at all.” I think that’s an allusion to Bran ending up on the throne.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 12:15 pm to Epic Cajun
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As Bronc stated earlier, it’s still half Targaryen, same as Alicent’s kids.
Bastards are a big problem in this world, though. They may be half-Targ, but they would be viewed as having no claim. If they had children, they wouldn't be Targaryans, they wouldn't be Strongs, they would be Waters. I admit that taking Rhaenyra's proposal would keep her children safer. However, their children would likely have a ton of issues.
So, yeah, Allicent is hypocritical about keeping her direct children safer, but turning down the proposal is better for her line.
One other thing. Bastards are looked at as tainted. So, it is beneath these high houses to wed their children to bastards.
This post was edited on 9/26/22 at 12:16 pm
Posted on 9/26/22 at 12:16 pm to Saskwatch
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massive dragon. Way bigger than Daemon's.
It’s the 2nd biggest ever behind balerion
Posted on 9/26/22 at 12:18 pm to DestrehanTiger
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They may be half-Targ, but they would be viewed as having no claim.
Thats not really true though.
The reason Cersei was sending assassins all over the realm to kill Robert's bastards was for that exact reason, she feared one of Robert's bastards can make a claim to the throne and form a threatening alliance due to the rumors about Joffrey(which she knew were true).
But as also pointed out, Alicent at no point has demonstrated her reasoning to be because of the realm. And even if Rhaenyra had fathered her children with Laena literally nothing in Alicent's overall calculus changes, just the means and methods she would use to get there. Her paranoia isn't fueled by Rhaenyra's bastards inheriting the throne, it's driven by Rhaenyra taking the throne, regardless of who her children were sired by
This post was edited on 9/26/22 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 9/26/22 at 12:23 pm to Epic Cajun
True enough, yet they are not bastards.
In the end, I believe she knows this is all irrelevant as a significant portion of the realm will not accept a female ruler and want Aegon on the throne instead.
In the end, I believe she knows this is all irrelevant as a significant portion of the realm will not accept a female ruler and want Aegon on the throne instead.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 12:27 pm to Bronc
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The reason Cersei was sending assassins all over the realm to kill Robert's bastards was for that exact reason, she feared one of Robert's bastards can make a claim to the throne and form a threatening alliance due to the rumors about Joffrey(which she knew were true).
That's a good point, however, Id argue that the bastards of Robert have a better claim due to being the only true offspring of Robert. In this scenario 200 years earlier, that isn't the case. I will admit my arguments for Alicent aren't bullet proof.
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