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re: House of the Dragon S1E4--Official Thread; “King of the Narrow Sea”
Posted on 9/13/22 at 7:40 am to nes2010
Posted on 9/13/22 at 7:40 am to nes2010
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Yea, but we live in this world where it is creepy. It goes with the territory for GOT, but that doesn't mean people aren't allowed to be creeped out by incest.
that's the entire point. GRRM, as annoying as he is, is a genius and know something as taboo as incest would 100% make his story/show stand out. that's how people got hooked on season 1 GOT. viewers were outraged/shocked from episode 1 with jamie/cercei banging and tuned in the following week to see what happened next.
give the fat man his credit.
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Posted on 9/13/22 at 7:44 am to nes2010
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but that doesn't mean people aren't allowed to be creeped out by incest.
People are allowed to feel however they want, but watching a show that is based in a fantasy realm with dragons and applying current societal norms to it is weird, imo.
Posted on 9/13/22 at 7:59 am to Twenty 49
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Rhaenyra
Am I the only one that thinks she has a rocking body? She’s 22 by the way
Posted on 9/13/22 at 8:06 am to dallastiger55
Obviously not 
Posted on 9/13/22 at 8:14 am to dallastiger55
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Am I the only one that thinks she has a rocking body
Who knows? The way they edited her sex scene I have no idea what her body really looks like. She doesn't show any skin in her all black outfits. Her face is pretty plain.
Some guys see a thin blonde and immediately think she's some incredibly hot chick. Her acting has been pretty good but her looks are nothing special.
Posted on 9/13/22 at 8:20 am to dallastiger55
Face is meh, thats all i know
Posted on 9/13/22 at 8:23 am to Cosmo
She’s very curvy for how skinny she is
Posted on 9/13/22 at 8:56 am to Boodis Man
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GRRM, as annoying as he is, is a genius and know something as taboo as incest would 100% make his story/show stand out. that's how people got hooked on season 1 GOT. viewers were outraged/shocked from episode 1 with jamie/cercei banging and tuned in the following week to see what happened next.
Well I didn't tune in because of the incest in Ep 1. But the incest from GRRM own words is because royalty has always had incest going on.
Posted on 9/13/22 at 9:25 am to dallastiger55
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She’s very curvy for how skinny she is
I mean, compared to Taylor Swift, yeah. But I wouldn't say she's curvy.
Posted on 9/13/22 at 9:31 am to dallastiger55
Rhaenera actress is a great performer but looks like a 12 or 13 year old to me….so hard pass.
Posted on 9/13/22 at 9:49 am to SECSolomonGrundy
Posted on 9/13/22 at 10:04 am to iwyLSUiwy
The rise and fall of Daemon was perfect
This post was edited on 9/13/22 at 10:06 am
Posted on 9/13/22 at 10:12 am to Epic Cajun
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People are allowed to feel however they want, but watching a show that is based in a fantasy realm with dragons and applying current societal norms to it is weird, imo.
This argument is silly.
So if a fantasy show includes aspects that society frowns upon (i.e. a character who is supposed to be 16 having sex with her uncle), it's weird for people to cringe at it?
Posted on 9/13/22 at 10:40 am to Epic Cajun
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People are allowed to feel however they want, but watching a show that is based in a fantasy realm with dragons and applying current societal norms to it is weird, imo
I mean it’s a norm in the realm that it’s creepy too. Otherwise Jaime and Ceresi would’ve been far more open about their relationship (and their kids) in ASOIAF.
It’s normalized by the Targaryens but it doesn’t mean it’s not icky within the realm too. It’s not something you see the other Royal households doing to the degree the Targaryens do but they also don’t have the same scrutiny when it comes to purity of the bloodline either.
It’s icky as frick, fantasy or not. But it is what it is.
Posted on 9/13/22 at 10:42 am to Cdawg
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Well I didn't tune in because of the incest in Ep 1. But the incest from GRRM own words is because royalty has always had incest going on.
Piggybacking off this, I think part of what makes GRRM's worldbuilding so good, is that outside the obvious high fantasy elements, almost everything in his stories has some basis in actual history.
Some random examples:
The Wall and The Nights Watch
Tyrion's Wildfire
Rhaenyra's Plan B Tea
Even characters like
Cersei Lannister
Joffrey(the actor even resembles his statue) and also pulled from LINK
And with the Targaryens, GRRM seems to mismash a combination of Normans (mostly Normans), Romans (Valyria) and Egyptians (borderline obsession with blood purity)
It's like history but just altered and ramped up with fantasy elements. And the people never feel like an exact replica but they are close enough that there is a familiarity if you studied a decent bit of world history, particularly ancient civilization, antiquity through the Tudor period.
Posted on 9/13/22 at 10:42 am to Tacktheritrix
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The rise and fall of Daemon was perfect
Did not know it started yet with either
Posted on 9/13/22 at 10:51 am to HailToTheChiz
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So if a fantasy show includes aspects that society frowns upon (i.e. a character who is supposed to be 16 having sex with her uncle), it's weird for people to cringe at it?
There's 2 different reasons that it's weird to cringe at it. One, it's completely normal in the world that they are portraying, and B it's a TV show and they are actors
ETA: normal for the Targaryens, exceptionalism and all
This post was edited on 9/13/22 at 10:54 am
Posted on 9/13/22 at 10:54 am to TideWarrior
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The rise and fall of Daemon was perfect
Did not know it started yet with either
I think it was an impotence joke.
Posted on 9/13/22 at 11:41 am to LuckySo-n-So
Posted on 9/13/22 at 11:51 am to theunknownknight
watched it again last nite, i didnt notice the tapestries above alicent's bed before
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