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re: House of the Dragon S1E4--Official Thread; “King of the Narrow Sea”
Posted on 9/13/22 at 11:58 am to cgrand
Posted on 9/13/22 at 11:58 am to cgrand
from a ringer recap, i hadn't considered this:
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This presents a bit of a problem for Rhaenyra. If she drinks the tea, she is essentially confirming she is not a maiden—and that piece of gossip could quickly spread.
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Posted on 9/13/22 at 12:29 pm to cgrand
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from a ringer recap, i hadn't considered this:
The Maester left the room, how would anyone know if she drank it.
Posted on 9/13/22 at 12:36 pm to joshnorris14
if the cup is empty she either drank it or poured it out. Either way, she confirms she did the deed. If she doesn’t drink it hopefully ser cristons pull out game is good
Posted on 9/13/22 at 12:37 pm to cgrand
Nobody pulls out in Westeros which is so weird.
Posted on 9/13/22 at 12:39 pm to cgrand
She can always drink it then refill it with something else.
Posted on 9/13/22 at 1:06 pm to cgrand
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from a ringer recap, i hadn't considered this:
I feel like this is the sort of contrived drama a lesser show would focus on.
The conversation between Rhaenyra and Viserys already addressed this, which is it doesnt matter if she did or didnt, or whether the King learns the full truth. What matters is the perception of her and how that may negatively reflect back on the Family, the Crown, and her future legitimacy. And that damage has already been done by her being seen out and in the brothels with her brother.
This post was edited on 9/13/22 at 1:12 pm
Posted on 9/13/22 at 1:12 pm to Bronc
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I feel like this is the sort of contrived drama a lesser show would focus on. The conversation between Rhaenyra and Viserys already addressed this, which is it doesnt matter if she did or didnt, or whether the King learns the full truth. What matters is the perception of her and how that may negatively reflect back on the Family and Crown.
Yea, I feel like the moon tea scene was just to show that even though Viserys went along with what she said, he didn't really believe her.
I don't think it will be revisited.
Posted on 9/13/22 at 1:18 pm to nes2010
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Yea, I feel like the moon tea scene was just to show that even though Viserys went along with what she said, he didn't really believe her.
I don't think it will be revisited.
That's 100% what I expect too.
Audiences can speculate and contemplate on what it all means, but their conversation already established the damage from her actions will come from the whispers and slander behind their backs and around their name, his current rule, and her future legitimacy.
The tea is likely just a "I know you probably really did it, and I want you to know that and what it is costing me to protect you(losing his Hand, possibly sowing discord), but you damn well better not end up with a child out of the ordeal."
This post was edited on 9/13/22 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 9/13/22 at 1:52 pm to cgrand
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i didnt notice the tapestries above alicent's bed before
haha I did. It would be normal in a brothel type setting. It's wild in the room of the Queen. Also thought it was weird the King and Queen don't share the same bed and bedroom?
Posted on 9/13/22 at 1:56 pm to Bronc
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What matters is the perception of her and how that may negatively reflect back on the Family, the Crown, and her future legitimacy.
This. Although Viserys really is backing himself into a corner. He already gave Rhaenyra the ability to choose her own match. She does likely diminish in desirability from other houses if it is known/thought she's been banging her Uncle (which is fine within Targ fam). Although I suppose there would still many for Rhaenyra to pick from because she is future ruler at this point and the power that comes with Dragons.
Posted on 9/13/22 at 2:06 pm to Bronc
quote:that's kinda what we are all doing here
Audiences can speculate and contemplate on what it all means
although theres a big time jump coming, so i guess its moot
maybe thats what the big fight is about shown at the wedding in the preview
Posted on 9/13/22 at 2:09 pm to Saskwatch
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This. Although Viserys really is backing himself into a corner. He already gave Rhaenyra the ability to choose her own match. She does likely diminish in desirability from other houses if it is known/thought she's been banging her Uncle (which is fine within Targ fam). Although I suppose there would still many for Rhaenyra to pick from because she is future ruler at this point and the power that comes with Dragons.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but part of the punishment was that Viserys finally took a hard line on Rhaenyra wedding the Sea Snake's son to salvage that alliance and nip that discontent from marrying Alicent in the bud.
Posted on 9/13/22 at 2:12 pm to Bronc
Correct, and she agreed to it, but her "condition" was firing the Hand that spied on her.
Posted on 9/13/22 at 2:16 pm to cgrand
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that's kinda what we are all doing here
I was more responding to the Ringer wondering about whether the whole "will she or wont she drink the tea" being a thing in the show.
It's really sort of a red herring. Viserys would never say, she could just drink it and smash the cup, claim she was pissed off, and the gossip is already gonna spread regardless.
Posted on 9/13/22 at 3:08 pm to theunknownknight
Yea that whole line, and then the thought of Aria being the one to kill the Night King is hilarious.
Posted on 9/13/22 at 3:21 pm to Saskwatch
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Although I suppose there would still many for Rhaenyra to pick from because she is future ruler at this point and the power that comes with Dragons.
Right, you think lords are going to be like, “well I could betroth my son to the heir of the iron throne and merge families with the most powerful family in the world, but she’s isn’t a virgin, so I’m gonna pass”?
Posted on 9/13/22 at 3:23 pm to hg
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Yea that whole line, and then the thought of Aria being the one to kill the Night King is hilarious.
Just another reason why it was fricking stupid to have Arya be the one who did it
Posted on 9/13/22 at 4:19 pm to BluegrassBelle
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I mean it’s a norm in the realm that it’s creepy too. Otherwise Jaime and Cersei would’ve been far more open about their relationship (and their kids) in ASOIAF.
They couldn't be open about it because it would be known that Cersei's kids weren't Roberts kids and thus not be heirs to the iron throne.
Posted on 9/13/22 at 4:27 pm to Saskwatch
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Also thought it was weird the King and Queen don't share the same bed and bedroom?
That is an aristocratic thing that even took place in this country early into the 20th century.
Each would have their own servants as well as rooms, usually a whole wing in regards to royalty. It also allowed the man, sometimes the woman, to have affairs without question.
Posted on 9/13/22 at 4:30 pm to BluegrassBelle
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It’s normalized by the Targaryens but it doesn’t mean it’s not icky within the realm too. It’s not something you see the other Royal households doing to the degree the Targaryens do but they also don’t have the same scrutiny when it comes to purity of the bloodline either.
Europe was known for this with in relation to maintaining bloodlines. When Europeans came to the US in the 1700s the migrated together several families. The majority of family trees will show cousins marrying for several generations in the early 1800s
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