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‘Has this guy ever made a movie before?’ Francis Ford Coppola’s battle to film Megalopolis

Posted on 5/14/24 at 12:21 pm
Posted by Bench McElroy
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 12:21 pm
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Cast members including Adam Driver have spoken positively of their experience on the film, but, according to other sources, its making was almost as fraught and chaotic as that of Apocalypse Now. Much time and effort was allegedly wasted, crucial crew members quit halfway through and Coppola made things even more complicated by embarking on a property redevelopment at the same time. As one crew member put it: “It was like watching a train wreck unfold day after day, week after week, and knowing that everybody there had tried their hardest to help the train wreck be avoided.”

By the sound of things, the shoot became a clash between Coppola’s old-school approach, privileging spontaneity and “finding magic in the moment”, and newer digital film-making methods, such as filming actors in front of virtual CGI landscapes in a “volume” – effectively a giant wall of LED screens. Today’s technology enables directors to realise anything they can dream up – including utopian cities of the future – but working this way demands preparation and collaboration. “I think Coppola still lives in this world where, as an auteur, you’re the only one who knows what’s happening, and everybody else is there just to do what he asks them to do,” suggested one former crew member, who did not wish to be named.

The crew member sometimes found Coppola’s approach exasperating: “We had these beautiful designs that kept evolving but he would never settle on one. And every time we would have a new meeting, it was a different idea.” When the crew member insisted they needed to do more work to determine how the film was going to look, they say, Coppola replied: “How can you figure out what Megalopolis looks like when I don’t even know what Megalopolis looks like?”

A lot of time was, apparently, wasted. A second crew member recalls: “He would often show up in the mornings before these big sequences and because no plan had been put in place, and because he wouldn’t allow his collaborators to put a plan in place, he would often just sit in his trailer for hours on end, wouldn’t talk to anybody, was often smoking marijuana … And hours and hours would go by without anything being filmed. And the crew and the cast would all stand around and wait. And then he’d come out and whip up something that didn’t make sense, and that didn’t follow anything anybody had spoken about or anything that was on the page, and we’d all just go along with it, trying to make the best out of it. But pretty much every day, we’d just walk away shaking our heads wondering what we’d just spent the last 12 hours doing.” As a third crew member puts it: “This sounds crazy to say, but there were times when we were all standing around going: ‘Has this guy ever made a movie before?’”

Adam Driver’s first day on set was particularly memorable, a source suggests. One aspect of the story involves Driver’s character’s body fusing with some futuristic organic material. Rather than using digital techniques, Coppola wanted to achieve the effect through old-school methods, using projectors and mirrors, much as he had done on Dracula, 30 years earlier. “That’s great, except nobody can move,” says the crew member. “So they basically strapped Adam Driver into a chair for six hours, and they literally took a $100 projector and projected an image on the side of his head. I’m all for experimentation, but this is really what you want to do the first day with your $10m actor?” The effect would have been quick and easy to create digitally, they say. “So he [Coppola] spends literally half of a day on what could have been done in 10 minutes.”

“We were all aware that we were participating in what might be a really sad finish to his career,” says a crew member. But some of them felt “he was just so unpleasant toward a lot of the people who were trying to help facilitate the process and help make the movie better”.

Several sources also felt that Coppola could be “old school” in his behaviour around women. He allegedly pulled women to sit on his lap, for example. And during one bacchanalian nightclub scene being shot for the film, witnesses say, Coppola came on to the set and tried to kiss some of the topless and scantily clad female extras. He apparently claimed he was “trying to get them in the mood”.

Things came to a head in December 2022, roughly halfway through the 16-week shoot, when most of the visual effects and art teams were either fired or quit. “I think he had to work quite hard to then figure out how to replace them,” says Figgis. “I think he just wanted to liberate himself while he was shooting. So he didn’t have to wait for stuff, and then he’d say ‘Oh, I’ll fix it later. I’ll fix it in post – which I guess he’s done.”

The virtual “volume” was abandoned in favour of more traditional “green screen” technology”, according to one source: “His dig at us was always, ‘I don’t want to make a Marvel movie,’ but at the end of the day, that’s what he ended up shooting.”


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Posted by keakar
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 1:25 pm to
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“He would often show up in the mornings before these big sequences and because no plan had been put in place, and because he wouldn’t allow his collaborators to put a plan in place, he would often just sit in his trailer for hours on end, wouldn’t talk to anybody, was often smoking marijuana … And hours and hours would go by without anything being filmed. And the crew and the cast would all stand around and wait. And then he’d come out and whip up something that didn’t make sense, and that didn’t follow anything anybody had spoken about or anything that was on the page, and we’d all just go along with it, trying to make the best out of it.


he is just trying to be his own version of cartmans awsimo, the movie idea creating robot

Posted by diddlydawg7
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 1:28 pm to
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Coppola came on to the set and tried to kiss some of the topless and scantily clad female extras. He apparently claimed he was “trying to get them in the mood”.


Posted by The Eric
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 1:38 pm to
I hope this movie ends up being the greatest movie of the 21st century... so then all those coddled and know it all hacks have to seethe in their anger while he collects award after award.


All of those comments reek of "far left sissies"
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 1:42 pm to
This same shite was said about apocalypse now, perhaps the greatest war movie ever made
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 1:47 pm to
You make the Godfather, you get to do whatever you want on production. Thems the rules.


So hyped for this movie. Classic director doing insane things for his artistic vision on an original idea and potentially bankrupting himself and the studio? Movies are so back baby.
Posted by rebelrouser
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 1:49 pm to
It may or may not work, but I applaud him for getting away from overreliance on CGI and green screen acting.
Posted by GetCocky11
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 1:51 pm to
Posted by Esquire
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 2:02 pm to
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I applaud him for getting away from overreliance on CGI and green screen acting


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The virtual “volume” was abandoned in favour of more traditional “green screen” technology”, according to one source: “His dig at us was always, ‘I don’t want to make a Marvel movie,’ but at the end of the day, that’s what he ended up shooting.”
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 2:19 pm to
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He would often show up in the mornings before these big sequences and because no plan had been put in place, and because he wouldn’t allow his collaborators to put a plan in place, he would often just sit in his trailer for hours on end, wouldn’t talk to anybody, was often smoking marijuana … And hours and hours would go by without anything being filmed.


Posted by TouchedTheAxeIn82
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 2:29 pm to
You can't teach an old dog new tricks.

Maybe it turned into something amazing in post. I think everyone but the complainers are rooting for a great final product. We're about to find out.


The teaser looks crazy and amazing.

This post was edited on 5/14/24 at 2:44 pm
Posted by teke184
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 3:05 pm to
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This same shite was said about apocalypse now, perhaps the greatest war movie ever made


That AN was NOT a disaster was a miracle.

Then he went on to make a movie supposed to be an easy cheap film for him, “One From The Heart”, which bankrupted him and had him doing shite films for big money for years to recover from it.



Coppola being capable of making great films isn’t in question. The problem is that he hasn’t made many decent ones since the 70s.
Posted by Jack Ruby
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 3:06 pm to
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A lot of time was, apparently, wasted. A second crew member recalls: “He would often show up in the mornings before these big sequences and because no plan had been put in place, and because he wouldn’t allow his collaborators to put a plan in place, he would often just sit in his trailer for hours on end, wouldn’t talk to anybody, was often smoking marijuana … And hours and hours would go by without anything being filmed. And the crew and the cast would all stand around and wait. And then he’d come out and whip up something that didn’t make sense, and that didn’t follow anything anybody had spoken about or anything that was on the page, and we’d all just go along with it, trying to make the best out of it. But pretty much every day, we’d just walk away shaking our heads wondering what we’d just spent the last 12 hours doing.” As a third crew member puts it: “This sounds crazy to say, but there were times when we were all standing around going: ‘Has this guy ever made a movie before?’”


Minus the Marijuana part, this is how Kubrick used to make films, too. He would show up and take half the day looking for 'the shot' and then everyone would red-light and re-design the set and scramble for 2 hours of shooting. It's why his films took 1-2 yrs to shoot.

But his crew was very small and all knew how he worked. Coppola did similar things except it was with the writing and not the camera. He would write and rewrite and rewrite and rewrite on the day of shooting and almost nothing would get done.

The magic of those guys all came in the editing snd post production. Spielberg did the same thing on Jaws. It was a disaster until it wasn't.

These idiots are just not used to actual artistic directors working at an artistic pace to get the perfect sequence.

They are used to Marvel shite and untalented directors being puppeted by the studio through a paint by numbers storyboard fest.

Heaven fobid they actually learn about filmmaking.
Posted by teke184
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 3:14 pm to
Kubrick had auteur license from the studios and actors would actively audition to work for him.

Kubrick also had no films that would be considered a true bomb, which is why he kept his auteur license.



Coppola, if you only looked at his 72-79 run, had four classics in Godfather 1, Godfather 2, Conversation, and Apocalypse Now.

His post-79 work was generally underwhelming outside of Outsiders and Dracula.
Posted by FairhopeTider
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 3:21 pm to
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The teaser looks crazy and amazing.


That trailer is something else. Could watch it 100 times and have no idea what the movie is about.
This post was edited on 5/14/24 at 3:22 pm
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 3:41 pm to
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Cast members including Adam Driver have spoken positively of their experience on the film, but, according to other sources, its making was almost as fraught and chaotic as that of Apocalypse Now


Hearts of Darkness is a shocking documentary by the sheer fact his wife shot it....and then released it. Highlighting total chaos and ineptitude on the set for Apocalypse Now....

Burning money.....with a million miles of film left on the cutting room floor. A quote from the Coppola interview shown at the beginning of the film ("We were in the jungle, there were too many of us, we had access to too much money, too much equipment, and little by little we went insane".

As a Director, he's the anti-Clint Eastwood....who makes movies from the Dollar Store..
Posted by rebelrouser
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Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 3:45 pm to
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Rather than using digital techniques, Coppola wanted to achieve the effect through old-school methods, using projectors and mirrors, much as he had done on Dracula, 30 years earlier. “That’s great, except nobody can move,” says the crew member. “So they basically strapped Adam Driver into a chair for six hours, and they literally took a $100 projector and projected an image on the side of his head. I’m all for experimentation, but this is really what you want to do the first day with your $10m actor?” The effect would have been quick and easy to create digitally, they say. “So he [Coppola] spends literally half of a day on what could have been done in 10 minutes.”
Posted by teke184
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 3:55 pm to
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As a Director, he's the anti-Clint Eastwood....who makes movies from the Dollar Store..


Him, Michael Cimino, Scorsese, etc, are all from that same “auteur” school of the 70s.

The main difference is that Scorsese learned from New York New York what some of his limitations were and was generally successful after that, starting with the likes of Raging Bull.

Cimino melted down with Heaven’s Gate and cemented his fall with The Sicilian.

Coppola financially ruined himself with One From The Heart and then prostituted himself for years to cover the costs of it.
Posted by Bama Bird
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 6:02 pm to
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crucial crew members


No such thing, especially in Hollywood
Posted by LawnmowerMan
Member since Jan 2024
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 6:14 pm to
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You make the Godfather, you get to do whatever you want on production. Thems the rules.


So hyped for this movie. Classic director doing insane things for his artistic vision on an original idea and potentially bankrupting himself and the studio? Movies are so back baby.



I love these pussy arse bitches crying about knowing more than a 5 time academy award winning filmmaker. What a pathetic bunch of whiny children. The CGI creations lack any substance or depth from an emotional standpoint and it's fricking hilarious to hear them piss and moan. Will go see it in the hopes that it's fantastic.
This post was edited on 5/14/24 at 6:20 pm
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