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Harry Potter question regarding the slytherin house

Posted on 10/11/21 at 10:34 am
Posted by Macintosh504
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Posted on 10/11/21 at 10:34 am
So throughout the entire movie the slytherin house gets portrayed as this house of evil little kids who will turn into evil adults. The most evil wizard was in slytherin and recruited people from that house. So my question is why tf did hogwarts continue to have that house as a part of their school if it’s done nothing but cause harm and violence for the last 50+ years? Even the professors always had this undertone feeling of hating slytherin. Wouldn’t you want to put all of these kids into the other houses that seem more loving and accepting and not as elitist and radical?
Posted by UnluckyTiger
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Posted on 10/11/21 at 10:35 am to
white privilege
Posted by theGarnetWay
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Posted on 10/11/21 at 10:37 am to
quote:

So my question is why tf did hogwarts continue to have that house as a part of their school if it’s done nothing but cause harm and violence for the last 50+ years?


Too scared to disobey the Sorting Hat?
This post was edited on 10/11/21 at 10:38 am
Posted by TeddyPadillac
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Posted on 10/11/21 at 10:44 am to
b/c the movie/books needed a villain
Posted by bluestem75
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Posted on 10/11/21 at 10:46 am to
quote:

So my question is why tf did hogwarts continue to have that house as a part of their school if it’s done nothing but cause harm and violence for the last 50+ years?


This.

But above poster is right. Gotta have a villain.
Posted by CU_Tigers4life
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Posted on 10/11/21 at 10:51 am to
Have you read the books or just going off the movies?

According to "Pottermore", which is JK Rowlings Potter site states as follows:

quote:

Slytherins are associated with cunning, ambition and a tendency to look after their own. Some other traits include, shrewdness and traditionalism.


LINK

These traits don't necessarily make one evil. They probably don't mind bending or breaking the rules to achieve their goals.

Harry Potter said that the bravest person he ever knew was Severus Snape, who was a Slytherin and head of the House. He was also willing to betray his kind because off his unyielding love of Lilly Potter.
This post was edited on 10/11/21 at 5:52 pm
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 10/11/21 at 10:55 am to
Not a huge fan but I have seen the movies several times. My guess would be because the magic land can be no different than our world when it comes to political complexity. I imagine many members of the Ministry of Magic were members of House Slytherin and the banishment of the house would cause a rift or even sanctions
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 10/11/21 at 12:35 pm to
Honestly the bigger thing is I don’t understand how the Wizarding economy works. Doesn’t make any sense to me.
Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 10/11/21 at 12:38 pm to
quote:

Honestly the bigger thing is I don’t understand how the Wizarding economy works. Doesn’t make any sense to me.

Your thread on that was pretty good.

The economy cannot exist in its own defined reality.
Posted by theGarnetWay
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Posted on 10/11/21 at 12:42 pm to
quote:


These traits don't necessarily make one evil. They probably don't mind bending or breaking the rules to achieve their goals.


This. Most of those that were evil were Slytherin, but not all Slytherin were evil. Slughorn for example.
This post was edited on 10/12/21 at 7:23 am
Posted by Frac the world
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Posted on 10/11/21 at 3:11 pm to
Why did parents still send their kids there once the Deatheaters had taken over?
Posted by Indefatigable
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Posted on 10/11/21 at 3:25 pm to
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Why did parents still send their kids there once the Deatheaters had taken over?


IIRC, in large part because not sending your kids back to Hogwarts was in and of itself enough to have your family targeted as being a follower of Dumbledore, et al.
Posted by UnitedFruitCompany
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Posted on 10/11/21 at 4:26 pm to
quote:

Not a huge fan but I have seen the movies several times. My guess would be because the magic land can be no different than our world when it comes to political complexity. I imagine many members of the Ministry of Magic were members of House Slytherin and the banishment of the house would cause a rift or even sanctions


Machiavelli would have been sorted into Slytherin with the quickness.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 10/11/21 at 4:42 pm to
quote:

Why did parents still send their kids there once the Deatheaters had taken over?


Wizarding Home Schooling was apparently a thing, but once Voldemort took over, he made it compulsory to go to Hogwarts, and anyone’s whose kids did not go was immediately put on a list and sent to Azkaban after a mock trial with Umbridge.

And also look around you now if you’re wondering why anyone would intentionally abuse their kids.
Posted by BorrisMart
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Posted on 10/11/21 at 6:05 pm to
Did they ever have a talking painting done of Dumpledore? I feel like that could have solved a lot of problems. He could have just given advice from beyond the grave. (or did they do that, its been forever)
Posted by FalseProphet
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Posted on 10/11/21 at 6:50 pm to
Another point in favor of Slytherin. In Sorcerer’s Stone, Slytherin actually won the House Cup by any intelligible principle. At the end of the year, Slytherin had the most points, which means they beat every other house in total behavior, academics, and sports. Only by some insane (expulsion worthy) high jinx by Potter and company and some arbitrary (dubious) action by Dumbledore in awarding points for literal nonsense (best game of Chess at Hogwarts ever, really?), did Gryffindor squeak out a win.

Slytherin was in the hunt for the House Cup every year, despite the admin’s apparent contempt for the lot, meaning they were pretty top notch and well rounded as a group. Sure they had some bad apples, but on the whole, there was nothing worth kicking them out over.
This post was edited on 10/11/21 at 6:51 pm
Posted by jlovel7
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
21308 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 7:25 pm to
quote:

Honestly the bigger thing is I don’t understand how the Wizarding economy works. Doesn’t make any sense to m


Can you link the thread on this?
Posted by STLDawg
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Posted on 10/11/21 at 7:59 pm to
All the big donor alums were Slytherin.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 10/11/21 at 8:45 pm to
Keep your friends close and your enemies closer ?

I'm not dismissive of Rowling entirely. I read most of the books, and she was able to create - for the most part - a really cool world where muggles and wizards co-existed.

But there are some large bits of her world which simply don't make sense. This being one of them.

As Harry and his mates grow up, the less I enjoyed the story. But I guess the saga had something for everyone, which makes it work for a wider audience.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 10/11/21 at 8:48 pm to
Snape was a slytherin and he's possibly the biggest hero in the whole story.
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