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re: Great Characters that were "Flanderized"

Posted on 3/11/25 at 1:21 pm to
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
128054 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 1:21 pm to
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Winston in New Girl after Coach shows up for a couple seasons.



I actually disagree with this one a bit.

They had no idea what to do with Winston for the first season or so, but making him just flat out weird started to actually work, and made the show much funnier.
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
31835 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 1:25 pm to
quote:

Prolly scared because of the John Carter fiasco




which is sad, because it's a legit fun movie. it's honestly a tie breaker when our family can't agree on anything.
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
8055 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 2:30 pm to
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Kramer? Eeeeehhhhhhh I don't know. Early and I mean EARLY on he's more subdued but I think that could just be chalked up to feeling out the character and not relaly knowing what to do with him quite yet. Early in season 2 is when Kramer pretends to be cop and enters that cleaners apartment who they think stole that statue, that whole seen was pretty over the top and slapstick-y like we come to know from Kramer and that was fairly early. Season 3 kramer has morphed into mostly the version taht we come to associate with him. Your'e talking about probably 75% of the show kramer being "kramer"...so personally I don't know if he necessarily got flanderized, although of course some of his sotrylines did get pretty out there but you could say that for the entire show. After 9 seasons they've gotta come up with something to write about ha.

sounds like a real Kramer Vs. Kramer situation
Posted by BCLA
Bossier City
Member since Mar 2005
8956 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 4:57 pm to
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“Don’t become a caricature, Kevin.” - Michael Scott (‘Goodbye Michael’)


That's what makes his Flanderization even more infuriating. The writers literally had that line in the show, and then proceeded to destroy any strand of a normal person the character had left.
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
21863 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 5:20 pm to
I don't consider her a great character, but the evolution of Dr. Stephanie Woods as the shrink on lethal weapon from competent to neurotic kook over the series seems to fit the bill.
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
58600 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 6:26 pm to
Joey from Friends is a good one.

He’s ridiculous in the later seasons.
Posted by Broken Coyote
Seated. Facing forward
Member since Dec 2010
3195 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 8:11 pm to
Off the beaten path.

Tim Roth’s character in Lie to Me. The first couple seasons were great while the show focused on the science of lie detection through micro reactions. By the end, Roth’s character was like a cocaine addict, running about frantically calling people liars constantly minus the science. Maybe he was.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 3/11/25 at 8:17 pm to
Peter Griffen
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21609 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 1:57 am to
Fonzie from Happy Days

People said Kevin, from The Office. But, also Creed.

Eric Matthews is one of the best examples of this. Total change.
Posted by The Dude Abides
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2010
2260 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 2:02 pm to
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Flanderization is the process of progressively exaggerating a fictional character's traits to the point where they become their defining characteristic.
Roscoe P Coltrane.
Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
19285 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 4:23 pm to
Another one that comes to mind is the show Wings. Thomas Haden Church’s character Lowell seemed to have gotten this treatment.
Posted by Roaad
White Privilege Broker
Member since Aug 2006
82130 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 5:21 pm to
Andy Dwyer
Kevin Malone

Both went from lovable losers to barely functional retards
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
34531 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 6:37 pm to
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The writers literally had that line in the show, and then proceeded to destroy any strand of a normal person the character had left.


How much did Mindy Kaling contribute to the writing of the show and which seasons did she have the most influence?
Posted by LSUDonMCO
Orlando
Member since Dec 2003
8250 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 6:46 am to
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Barney on HIMYM. He doesn't really start of as a ladies man. Then it gets to the point where he's always sleeping with a new woman. Hundreds of women by the end of the show and sort of a sexual deviant


The theory is that Barney was just a normal guy but that Ted exaggerated his exploits so that Ted wouldn't seem like such a pathetic man whore to his kids
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83215 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 8:32 am to
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I would add Andy Dwyer too. He started out as a normal dude taking advantage of Ann Perkins to a complete moron.


The first time we see Andy, he’s approaching stalker territory. I expected him to be written out of the show. I had no idea he would stick around as a character much less the actor become a Star.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
73372 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 3:05 pm to
Dale Gribble
Posted by DestrehanTiger
Houston, TX by way of Louisiana
Member since Nov 2005
13180 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 3:35 pm to
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I know it is the complete anti-thesis of the show but id love to see one od the characters accomplish something successfully that explains how the bar is still open



One of the greatest Sunny episodes of all time explains this: Charlie Work. It has a very "Office showing Michael being good at his job" vibe. Basically, Charlie has a very exact method to keep the bar from falling apart.
This post was edited on 3/14/25 at 3:37 pm
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
133574 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 9:40 pm to
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The early seasons they almost seemed like actual people, but by the end they were cartoon characters.



The longer a show runs and the more episodes you get the more they need off the wall storylines.


I mean Hell, look at long running soap operas
Posted by ColonelAngus
Huntsville,AL
Member since Aug 2023
794 posts
Posted on 3/15/25 at 11:30 am to
Californication: Hank.
Posted by stuckintexas
Austin & DFW
Member since Sep 2009
2921 posts
Posted on 3/15/25 at 3:42 pm to
I'd say Rosa from Brooklyn 99
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