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re: GoT S7 E4 "The Spoils of War" MAESTERS Thread

Posted on 8/7/17 at 11:01 am to
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 11:01 am to
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People who worry too much about details such as the lack of scouting seem to gloss over the fact we are in a universe where dragons exist.


So...just because there are dragons and magic and ice zombies means a functional, or more realistic, portrayal of an army or intelligence gathering shouldn't be hinted at or hoped for?
Posted by PeteRose
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 11:03 am to
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To be fair, she asked Jon to bend the knee before she knew about the losses to her flight at Casterly Rock...


Her attitude has always been the same entitled, bratty...before or after her knowledge of casterly rock.

And it's not a sexist comment. Her attitude sucks in general. You on YouTube reaction video and see how many women/girls are repulsed by her.
Posted by ColeLSU
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 11:03 am to
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People who worry too much about details such as the lack of scouting seem to gloss over the fact we are in a universe where dragons exist.




This.
Bran can see all things from all time, dragons are flying everywhere, dead are rising and walking, Arya can change faces......yet yall are pissed there wasnt a scout on a rock somewhere bc its too unrealistic
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 11:04 am to
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I think there's a question of whether he did bend the knee to her in that cave.


He did not
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
45363 posts
Posted on 8/7/17 at 11:04 am to
The purpose of GoT is entertainment, not a heavy military technical strategy. If you can except dragons, you can expect sneak attacks.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 11:05 am to
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I think there's a question of whether he did bend the knee to her in that cave.


Given the shot of her on a dragon roaring at him, I think he did not.
Posted by PeteRose
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 11:06 am to
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He did not


Does bending the knee sexually count?
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 11:07 am to
Realistic battle and fighting scenes wouldn't be as exciting and quick as they are in the show.
Posted by TulaneUVA
Member since Jun 2005
26226 posts
Posted on 8/7/17 at 11:07 am to
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Hodor, not Hordor.


Case in point. I fixed
This post was edited on 8/7/17 at 11:07 am
Posted by TideWarrior
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Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 11:11 am to
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So...just because there are dragons and magic and ice zombies means a functional, or more realistic, portrayal of an army or intelligence gathering shouldn't be hinted at or hoped for?


Nothing about this show or the book from any chapter or season is realistic so why does this battle have everyone so upset.

Again ignoring many things that have taken place especially the arrogance of the Lannisters please explain that if scouts were in place to warn of the advancing horde and a dragon what would they have done differently.

Remember infantry soldiers and not at full strength. Most wagons had no horses with them as it looked like they were being rested as we see many running away once the dragon attacks. The infantry was in a open field so could not take cover from with the Horde or the dragon. The infantry was there protecting the supply train to prepare for a possible siege at KL and had not built any defensive positions and do not care how fast the scouts may have been because again could not do anymore then create a shield wall. The Dorathki attacked the way they have mastered for hundreds of years by attacking a army in the open field to maximize their ability on horse. So please tell me what a freaking scout would have been able to do to change the outcome of that battle.
Posted by RandySavage
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 11:11 am to
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I am sorry that I want more GOT and not something that feels rushed. It seems like the show is on a shot clock


I totally agree. I'm enjoying these episodes but it's crazy how the show has been such a slow build and now it's just off the rails insane battles/huge events every week.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
13205 posts
Posted on 8/7/17 at 11:12 am to
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Realistic battle and fighting scenes wouldn't be as exciting and quick as they are in the show.


I agree and why most do not understand real battle.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38441 posts
Posted on 8/7/17 at 11:13 am to
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Dany dies in the fight for Dawn, does Jon turn to Sansa or Ayra? Me thinks Ayra. Troubling, but would fit into the GoT world of relationships


Arya+Jon was how Martin originally had it. In his first draft they hook up.
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 8/7/17 at 11:14 am to
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People who worry too much about details such as the lack of scouting seem to gloss over the fact we are in a universe where dragons exist.



This is such a tired argument.

I assume you would be fine with Jaimie breathing in water? Because, you know, dragons.

Perhaps KL doesn't need the food either because everyone just decided to stop eating for a few months to help out Cersei? Dragons.
This post was edited on 8/7/17 at 11:15 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 11:15 am to
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Remember infantry soldiers and not at full strength. Most wagons had no horses with them as it looked like they were being rested as we see many running away once the dragon attacks. The infantry was in a open field so could not take cover from with the Horde or the dragon. The infantry was there protecting the supply train to prepare for a possible siege at KL and had not built any defensive positions and do not care how fast the scouts may have been because again could not do anymore then create a shield wall. The Dorathki attacked the way they have mastered for hundreds of years by attacking a army in the open field to maximize their ability on horse. So please tell me what a freaking scout would have been able to do to change the outcome of that battle.

it's just the "surprise" crutch they've used 3 episodes in a row for key battles. if this was the first time it occurred this season, nbd, just part of the game. but it's literally been used THREE episodes in a row. that's like half of this season
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 8/7/17 at 11:16 am to
The show is being rushed and they would benefit from a few extra episodes this season.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 8/7/17 at 11:16 am to
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It's Sansa, the evil bitch ex-sister or Ayra the sister he always been close with.


I've been hoping we'd get to see some Sansa titties.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 8/7/17 at 11:16 am to
Well it's good to see that it isn't just Danny that is horrible at scouting
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 8/7/17 at 11:17 am to
Sophie is too big of a name at this point.
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 8/7/17 at 11:17 am to
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it's just off the rails insane battles/huge events every week.




There is no time for anything other than war game dialogue it seems.
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