re: GoT S7 E4 "The Spoils of War" MAESTERS Thread

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George never did that. Except when Robb snuck up on Jaime.

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Robb lied to the lannister scout (In the show for sure, I forget about the book) plus he had crockpot Grey Wind looking out for him.

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And when the Tyrell's and Tywin snuck up on Stannis at BlackWater.

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sea invasion. They spent a whole season sending letters and prepping.

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And When Theon snuck up on Winterfel

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No Army in the north.

I don't think they said she looked like her, they may have said she acts like Lyanna

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Remember when they mentioned Ayra looked like Jon's mother Lyanna?

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They've mentioned Arya looks like Lyanna and Jon looks like Arya, which was supposed to be a clue to Jon's parentage.

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Also Jon and Arya were notably close as siblings, hence why Jon would be so excited to see her. Jon and Sansa had a more distant relationship (likely influenced by Cat).

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Right. However they are not siblings now

Finneeeeeee I drop the crackpot theory.

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Man talk about Arya outkicking her coverage if she gets Jon.

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If Dany dies, it's not like there's a lot to choose from.

It's Sansa, the evil bitch ex-sister or Ayra the sister he always been close with.

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Dany is such a huge bitch.

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She demands Jon to bend the knee but later asks for his advice "what should I do?"

Based on what the show has shown us the Lanister army getting ambushed should be no surprise. Their arrogance is noted throughout the show once they think they have got the upper hand they become reckless. No different when Robb surprised Jamie. Where were his scouts then looking in the wrong place if I remember correctly following a part of the northern army away from the real intent.

Lets look at the events that took place leading up to the ambush. They let the unsullied basically have Castlery Rock and then destroyed their ships so they are now out of the picture and can go after High Garden. Euron had already destroyed Yara's Fleet. I believe Jaime and maybe someone else(Robert/Ned) had said in an earlier episode or season that the Dothraki had never fought against a real army and probably the assumption was made that with Yara's fleet burned and the ships the unsullied used as well they did not have enough left to get the horde where they needed.

Also I believe the majority of the army had already reached KL with the gold though I have some reservations while the leaders of the army was with the remaining group and the supply chain at this point. The horde moves fast and probably would surprise any scout before they could sound the alarm but even so please tell me what a scout would accomplish with the speed of the horde. Just about every supply wagon had no horses attached to it and the army was infantry so not like they could out run the horde. Even if warned they could have done really no more then what they did in the end.

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She demands Jon to bend the knee but later asks for his advice "what should I do?"

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To be fair, she asked Jon to bend the knee before she knew about the losses to her flight at Casterly Rock...

Or, you know, anyone else?

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She demands Jon to bend the knee but later asks for his advice "what should I do?"

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I think there's a question of whether he did bend the knee to her in that cave.