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re: GoT S6: E10 "The Winds of Winter" BOOK READERS
Posted on 6/27/16 at 11:11 am to Hugo Stiglitz
Posted on 6/27/16 at 11:11 am to Hugo Stiglitz
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Just like Robert Baratheon was King.
He also had that sliver of claim because of Targ blood in the Baratheon family. Cersei isn't claiming this she's claiming the crown because, "frick you" that's why.
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He took it by force.
Sure, but that doesn't mean that anyone will recognize either Lannister brother as "heir" - there will just be another war when Cersei dies/is killed.
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Posted on 6/27/16 at 11:11 am to wildtigercat93
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this guy right here
He still doesn't prove that Rhaegar and Lyanna were married.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 11:12 am to ell_13
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And you don't get to where he is by sticking with a failing plan.
All LF has to do is eliminate Jon, preferably without anyone being suspicious of him. It's clearly implied several times during the scene that he's going to strike Jon eventually and try and have him killed.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 11:12 am to skirpnasty
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You're right, they guard the king, which is why they had no business being there. They weren't with the king, they weren't with the prince, they weren't even with the prince's heirs.
The Kingsgaurd guard the king and his family. If Jon is a legitimate child and thus possible heir than they wouldn't be stepping out of line especially if Rhaegar ordered them to do so.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 11:12 am to ell_13
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No doubt. I just don't think he has an option with Sansa anymore.
"that is a pretty picture"
I don't think Sansa is put off by LF as y'all think
Posted on 6/27/16 at 11:14 am to skirpnasty
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Then why did the Daynes name their heir after Ned?
Ashara was in love with Ned. She may have even had an affair with him.
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Even if we assume a contemplating, honorable, uber disciplined, and intelligent individual had a "Romeo and Juliet" full year, left his family, while he drove the entire realm into chaos and sent thousands upon thousands to their death.
You forget "obsessed with prophecy" in your description. He must have thought Jon was pretty important to do something like that. Prince that was Promised important.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 11:16 am to ell_13
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No doubt. I just don't think he has an option with Sansa anymore. He can probably go back to the Vale and hope the WW kill him. And if they don't he can swoop in on a depleted and weak North. That's just one option of the top of my head.
LF has the second most powerful army in the world right now, only next to Dany's. He's not settling in the Vale and just hope for the Others to eliminate him. Plus I doubt LF believes in the Others.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 11:16 am to tigerfan88
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Not to mention the relationship between house Dayne and Eddard Stark is incredibly complicated since he and Ashara Dayne were in love with each other
You mean Ned was in love with her. Ashara was getting that Brandon dick
Posted on 6/27/16 at 11:17 am to Mr. Wayne
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You forget "obsessed with prophecy" in your description.
It's an interesting parallel between Rhaegar and Melisandre, too.
Rhaegar first thought he might be AA/TPTWP. Then it thought it was going to be Aegon. Finally, he became convinced that his child with Lyanna would be. So he was wrong until he wasn't.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 11:20 am to ell_13
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He can probably go back to the Vale and hope the WW kill him
Yeah but doesn't LF think the WW are all bullshite?
LF made a mistake underestimating Jon's appeal. He may hate him, but what can he do? Jon has united the houses of the north, LF isn't going to change that. He can try to get Sansa to marry him, but what will that do? And throwing out the fact that I think Jon is more bulletproof than Schwarzenegger in Commando, do you really think the former Lord Commander of the Nights Watch, brought back to life, and then stood down the entire Bolton army is going to have an "Unfortunate Accident?"
I think LF realized he screwed up and just watched his dreams of the throne evaporate.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 11:25 am to UncleBlazer
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You mean Ned was in love with her. Ashara was getting that Brandon dick
No, it was Ned she was in love with. Brandon just set his little brother up.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 11:27 am to TigerFanInSouthland
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IMO last week's episode was more satisfying than this one
For readers, the ToJ cut to Jon scene may have been the most satisfying scene in the series- so many stupid Internet arguments and drunken college conversations vindicated.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 11:27 am to BOSCEAUX
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Yep. Tommen going all stock market crash investor caught me off guard.
It should not have caught anyone by surprise who reads these treads. Many, including yours truly, suggested that Tommen would commit suicide but in the context of finding out he is the bastard son of his mother and her brother, Jaime during the trial.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 11:28 am to Mr. Wayne
Finally caught up in the thread. Unbelievable episode...so great.
A few thoughts:
I can't help but think Mel ends up with Thoros and Beric. Maybe give her a similar speech like they gave the Hound for redemption of the awful things she's done in the past (burning Shireen). Mel still has an important part to play in this end game.
Wouldn't be surprised if somehow Arya winds up with them as well. Someone already posted the "We'll meet again" between Mel and Arya. Couple that with the Hound being with them too only seems fitting.
Loved seeing Jamie finally fed up with Cersei. Ready for his redemption story to begin and I liked someone's theory about him killing her right as she's about to burn the city when Dany shows up.
Don't understand the hate towards Sam. He's going to uncover a key piece of info at the Citadel that'll be crucial to the end game.
And lastly, LF. He's the only one I can't figure out at this point. We all know he's not going to sit back and do nothing. But his master plan just got away from him in this episode. Curious how he switches gears from here.
A few thoughts:
I can't help but think Mel ends up with Thoros and Beric. Maybe give her a similar speech like they gave the Hound for redemption of the awful things she's done in the past (burning Shireen). Mel still has an important part to play in this end game.
Wouldn't be surprised if somehow Arya winds up with them as well. Someone already posted the "We'll meet again" between Mel and Arya. Couple that with the Hound being with them too only seems fitting.
Loved seeing Jamie finally fed up with Cersei. Ready for his redemption story to begin and I liked someone's theory about him killing her right as she's about to burn the city when Dany shows up.
Don't understand the hate towards Sam. He's going to uncover a key piece of info at the Citadel that'll be crucial to the end game.
And lastly, LF. He's the only one I can't figure out at this point. We all know he's not going to sit back and do nothing. But his master plan just got away from him in this episode. Curious how he switches gears from here.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 11:28 am to Ace Midnight
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Rhaegar first thought he might be AA/TPTWP. Then it thought it was going to be Aegon. Finally, he became convinced that his child with Lyanna would be. So he was wrong until he wasn't.
Exactly. He didn't train to be a warrior until he realized he was the father in the prophecy and "must" be a warrior. Then it was Aegon until he decided the "Dragon must have three heads". I'm going to hope against all hope that the Fat Man finishes book 6 before the next season. Despite the greatness of the show, they don't handle the prophecies all that well.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 11:29 am to Mr. Wayne
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No, it was Ned she was in love with. Brandon just set his little brother up.
We know from Cat that Brandon was the one all the girls went to sleep thinking about.
You think one of the most beautiful women in Westeros fell in love with the ugly second son over the handsome heir to Winterfell?
Posted on 6/27/16 at 11:29 am to Mr. Wayne
Regardless, it's no reason to name an heir Ned. Dude kills your sword of the morning, then knocks up your daughter and she commits suicide.
If I'm a Dayne I'm not having anything to do with that a-hole.
If I'm a Dayne I'm not having anything to do with that a-hole.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 11:31 am to Eric Nies Grind Time
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I laughed that the High Sparrow had a dressy potato sack to wear for formal trials.
"Septa get me the good rags, with the fancy sackcloth"
Posted on 6/27/16 at 11:32 am to OMLandshark
quote:It was just an option.
LF has the second most powerful army in the world right now, only next to Dany's. He's not settling in the Vale and just hope for the Others to eliminate him. Plus I doubt LF believes in the Others.
I didn't say it was a good one. Better than going after Jon right now or continuing to try and use Sansa. That was my point. I think he realizes that path is dead.Posted on 6/27/16 at 11:34 am to montanagator
Anyone else think Cersei with nothing to lose is fricking terrifying? She's shown she's will to do anything for power already.
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