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re: GoT S6: E10 "The Winds of Winter" BOOK READERS
Posted on 6/27/16 at 10:13 am to UncleBlazer
Posted on 6/27/16 at 10:13 am to UncleBlazer
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Nope Sansa knows he's alive. So does every person who thinks he and Rickon died together only to discover Rickon didn't actually die.
well no they don't know he is alive
it would make sense for them to wonder if he is still alive since Rickon was alive, but they do not know
nobody ever got a chance to talk to Rickon
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Posted on 6/27/16 at 10:14 am to wildtigercat93
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Any thoughts in where Euron comes into play with all this?
they have to introduce his horn next season
it would be the only true conflict Dany has till she faces the WWs
Posted on 6/27/16 at 10:14 am to Salmon
Doesn't TV Jon know Bran was going north of the wall?
Posted on 6/27/16 at 10:15 am to vilma4prez
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but someone that is a stark needs to push Jaime out of a window claiming "the things we do for love" .... you know, full circle and stuff...
His child jumped from a window because of the mothers actions.
Circle completed.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 10:16 am to Napoleon
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But that decree was lost with Lady Mormont's mother.
Also if bran just shows up, Winterfell is his, he is a natural born son.
I don't remember it being lost. It doesn't matter much though, because the bannermen still signed it and can confirm they did (the ones who are still alive at least).
Ultimately I do believe Bran will be Warden of the North once Jon and Danaerus are ruling the 7K
Posted on 6/27/16 at 10:16 am to GenesChin
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It bothers you that the crippled brother no one has seen in 6 seasons isn't brought up?
Are you talking about the trueborn lord of Winterfell, Eddard Stark's last true born son, and for all everyone knows the heir to the last King in the North? You're goddamn right.
2 people definitively know he was not killed by Theon. Everyone else at least knows Rickon wasn't. Not a stretch to expect one person to say "hey is that bran guy alive too" especially before claiming a bastard king in the north
Posted on 6/27/16 at 10:16 am to craigbiggio
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I don't think Jaime can be considered the official heir while he is still part of the Kinsguard.
Wasn't he removed from the Kingsguard by Tommen?
Posted on 6/27/16 at 10:17 am to wildtigercat93
quote:He'll be one of your main conflicts with Dany before the big endgame.
Any thoughts in where Euron comes into play with all this? poor guy is building all these ships, destroying ecosystems and shite and danys already on her fleet.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 10:17 am to Cash
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Wasn't he removed from the Kingsguard by Tommen?
Yep you're right, I totally forgot about that.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 10:18 am to UncleBlazer
just because someone didn't die at a point in time, doesn't mean they are alive.
But it dos mean they could be alive.
I agree his omission is odd. As is Arya's.
I expect both to show up in the second episode of next season.
But it dos mean they could be alive.
I agree his omission is odd. As is Arya's.
I expect both to show up in the second episode of next season.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 10:19 am to UncleBlazer
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Are you talking about the trueborn lord of Winterfell, Eddard Stark's last true born son, and for all everyone knows the heir to the last King in the North? You're goddamn right.
2 people definitively know he was not killed by Theon. Everyone else at least knows Rickon wasn't. Not a stretch to expect one person to say "hey is that bran guy alive too" especially before claiming a bastard king in the north
This is correct. One thing should be clear by now in this world: until someone is proven to be dead, the possibility of life must be considered. It's poor writing to have them all fully ignore and forget Bran
Posted on 6/27/16 at 10:20 am to Salmon
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have to introduce his horn next season
Really doubt the horn comes into play in the show. Seems like it would have been a key talking point at the Kingsmoot.
And Dany has plenty of obstacles left. She has to win the throne (oddly the easiest of her challenges), win over the people, somehow convert the Dothraki to Westerosi life (probably the biggest challenge), and defeat the Ice zombies that threaten all of civilization.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 10:20 am to craigbiggio
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Doesn't TV Jon know Bran was going north of the wall?
Yes, Sam and Gilly rant into Bran & company at the Nightfort, and Sam told Jon that Bran was going north of the wall.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 10:22 am to TigerFanInSouthland
Aerys being Jon's dad makes no fricking sense, either stylistically or logistically. There's no indication or hint that Lyanna and Aerys ever even met. We have proof via anecdote and prophecy that Lyanna and Rhaegar fell in love at the tourney at Harrenhal. We also know Rhaegar thought he needed another child to be the third head on the three headed dragon. Not to mention the most revered Targaryen of all time, Aegon the conqueror, had two wives so it's not unheard of.
As far as bran knowing goes, a big question for me is if he put two and two together. Pretty sure he realizes the baby is Jon, but did he hear/realize Rhaegar is the father? Considering bran is with Meera Reed and he just saw her father be the only other witness to ToJ, I think the stage is set for Bran to seek out Howland Reed to provide the final answer and confirmation.
I also don't understand the line of thought that Jon replaces the Night's King, unless it's via sorcery. Only way I could've seen that happening was if his resurrection had changed his personality drastically, but I think the show would've started to hint at that had it been the case. I just don't see what sort of mechanism or reasoning could lead to Jon becoming the leader of the Others. If anyone joins the Others I think Euron is the best bet. But with only 13 episodes left it sets up pretty well to deal with Cersei, Euron, and LF as human bad guys and then you still have to have the meeting/reconciliation of Jon and Dany. That's the first 7 episodes, then the last 6 are essentially the fight against the Others/Night King
As far as bran knowing goes, a big question for me is if he put two and two together. Pretty sure he realizes the baby is Jon, but did he hear/realize Rhaegar is the father? Considering bran is with Meera Reed and he just saw her father be the only other witness to ToJ, I think the stage is set for Bran to seek out Howland Reed to provide the final answer and confirmation.
I also don't understand the line of thought that Jon replaces the Night's King, unless it's via sorcery. Only way I could've seen that happening was if his resurrection had changed his personality drastically, but I think the show would've started to hint at that had it been the case. I just don't see what sort of mechanism or reasoning could lead to Jon becoming the leader of the Others. If anyone joins the Others I think Euron is the best bet. But with only 13 episodes left it sets up pretty well to deal with Cersei, Euron, and LF as human bad guys and then you still have to have the meeting/reconciliation of Jon and Dany. That's the first 7 episodes, then the last 6 are essentially the fight against the Others/Night King
Posted on 6/27/16 at 10:24 am to tigerfan88
So now what's LF's end game?
Posted on 6/27/16 at 10:25 am to LSUBoo
The Hodor thread is entering GOAT territory.
-One dude thinks the dragons need to either ride a boat or swim to Westeros
-Another doesn't understand why Arya wanted to kill Walder Frey.
-Yet another is still asking who's Jon Snow's mother.
-One dude thinks the dragons need to either ride a boat or swim to Westeros
-Another doesn't understand why Arya wanted to kill Walder Frey.
-Yet another is still asking who's Jon Snow's mother.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 10:25 am to Hugo Stiglitz
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Really doubt the horn comes into play in the show. Seems like it would have been a key talking point at the Kingsmoot.
I have no idea why they would bring in Euron if they didn't
she has to face some type of real conflict, as in war wise, next season (assuming we don't get real fight with WW till the final season)
Dany just rolling through everyone all the way to KL's landing doesn't make for that much drama
Posted on 6/27/16 at 10:27 am to Midget Death Squad
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(the ones who are still alive at least).
Not one person who signed it is still alive.
Red Wedding, then Ramsay killed Roose.
Obviously Lady Mormont died, because a kid is in charge now.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 10:27 am to Salmon
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I have no idea why they would bring in Euron if they didn't
To give Asha and Theon a reason to flee and make and alliance to take back the Iron Islands?
Posted on 6/27/16 at 10:28 am to Salmon
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I have no idea why they would bring in Euron if they didn't
We're just saying why not show it at the kingsmoot if he had it? He's not guaranteed to win, so why hide his most powerful piece? Makes no sense
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