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Posted on 6/27/16 at 10:31 am to UncleBlazer
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We're just saying why not show it at the kingsmoot if he had it?
no idea
the Kingsmoot was done poorly
Posted on 6/27/16 at 10:32 am to Napoleon
If Euron doesn't have a horn up his sleeve...Dany will roll right over him as well...
Land or sea, dragons win.
Land or sea, dragons win.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 10:33 am to Midget Death Squad
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No, this is not a better story. The Rhaegar-Lyanna-Robert story is perfect and needs no revisions.
Plus there is no way it is AD's son. The King's guard was there guarding that tower, and they are only allowed to guard the King. That means the only reason they are there is that the baby is Rhaegar's son.
You're right, they guard the king, which is why they had no business being there. They weren't with the king, they weren't with the prince, they weren't even with the prince's heirs. The Kingsguard were explicitly acting out of line regardless of the circumstances, at least this one explains why the most honorable knight alive isn't following his orders from the King. A+L is plausible to me for this reason alone, he was there the ENTIRE time, even when he shouldn't have been. He didn't ride away to battle, why would he not be with Rhaegar? Jon was at best 4th in line and at worst just a Targ bastard.
I like R+L but there is a lot that doesn't add up with it. Rhaegar leaving his wife and children. Then Lyanna not wanting Robert because "he would never keep to one bed", which is why she instead elopes with a married man who would be proving that he didn't keep to one bed?
As to Robert, the story with him exists regardless of who fathered Jon.
I'm sorry but no amount of tinfoil will fill those plot gaps. To call it a perfect plot is just silly.
This post was edited on 6/27/16 at 10:37 am
Posted on 6/27/16 at 10:33 am to Salmon
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the Kingsmoot was done poorly
Agreed. It weirdly got a positive reaction in this thread.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 10:34 am to wildtigercat93
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Any thoughts in where Euron comes into play with all this? poor guy is building all these ships, destroying ecosystems and shite and danys already on her fleet.
Entirely possible his story could be done and we don't hear from him again. His role in the story was to push Yara and Theon to Dani and for them to give her ships. They got to Dani first and she aligned with them. What is Euro going to do now? Dani has her ships so there is nothing he can give to her. He could possibly align and make a deal with Cersei to fight against the invading force. He could be used in that role but doesn't have to be. Depends on how long and how much detail they want to get into.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 10:34 am to Byron Bojangles III
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So now what's LF's end game?
Well he said he wants to sit on the Iron Throne.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 10:35 am to 19
Anyone think we see the midwife from the TOJ scene again? There was a quick cut with just her in it.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 10:35 am to skirpnasty
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Then Lyanna not wanting Robert because "he would never keep to one bed", which is why she instead elopes with a married man who would be proving that he didn't keep to one bed?
Love overcomes all obstacles.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 10:36 am to ladytiger118
That was probably the best episode of an epic on television ever.
It was just great scene after great scene.
Even the simple scene of Sam in the library was awesome.
I know a lot of other scenes overshadowed it but the Walder-Jamie interaction was great. You can tell how much it hurt Jamie to be compared to the honorless Walder frey.
Honestly, the only kinda meh scene to me was the KINGINDANORF scene. I didn't really get that "frick YEAH" feeling this time. It's pretty convenient for the northern houses to pledge their loyalty AFTER Snow won the battle.
Also, considering the episode is called The winds of Winter I was hoping for at least one shot of the Whitewalkers marching. Like right after they show Danys giant fleet sailing to westeros cut to a shot of the whitewalkers marching and show how much larger their army is.
It was just great scene after great scene.
Even the simple scene of Sam in the library was awesome.
I know a lot of other scenes overshadowed it but the Walder-Jamie interaction was great. You can tell how much it hurt Jamie to be compared to the honorless Walder frey.
Honestly, the only kinda meh scene to me was the KINGINDANORF scene. I didn't really get that "frick YEAH" feeling this time. It's pretty convenient for the northern houses to pledge their loyalty AFTER Snow won the battle.
Also, considering the episode is called The winds of Winter I was hoping for at least one shot of the Whitewalkers marching. Like right after they show Danys giant fleet sailing to westeros cut to a shot of the whitewalkers marching and show how much larger their army is.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 10:36 am to Azazello
Dany has partnered with a lesbian ironborn, a dickless iron born, sand bitches of dorne, etc etc
meanwhile a king in the north who knows the real threat and is a targ as well is now crowned
Does anyone else hear season 7 wedding bells for Jon and Dany to unite the 7 kingdoms against the white walkers?
meanwhile a king in the north who knows the real threat and is a targ as well is now crowned
Does anyone else hear season 7 wedding bells for Jon and Dany to unite the 7 kingdoms against the white walkers?
Posted on 6/27/16 at 10:37 am to MF Doom
Probably mentioned but remember when "Arya" wanted Jaime not Bronn? I hope she doesn't kill him Ned style because we like him now.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 10:38 am to skirpnasty
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You're right, they guard the king, which is why they had no business being there. They weren't with the king, they weren't with the prince, they weren't even with the prince's heirs. The Kingsguard were explicitly acting out of line regardless of the circumstances, at least this one explains why the most honorable knight alive isn't following his orders from the King.
Rhaegar planned to usurp his crazy arse father once the rebellion was put down. He all but said this to Jaime as he left to fight at the Trident. "Expect major changes upon my return..." or something to that affect. Those Kingsguard were loyal to Rhaegar, and I anticipate the others would have followed suit once he overthrew his father. They were guarding their King until their King orderred them to guard the Prince.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 10:38 am to tigerfan88
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Howland Reed to provide the final answer and confirmation.
HR=HS
RIP HR
Posted on 6/27/16 at 10:40 am to PatDyesPants
Twin brother.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 10:41 am to Mr. Wayne
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Rhaegar planned to usurp his crazy arse father once the rebellion was put down. He all but said this to Jaime as he left to fight at the Trident. "Expect major changes upon my return..." or something to that affect. Those Kingsguard were loyal to Rhaegar, and I anticipate the others would have followed suit once he overthrew his father. They were guarding their King until their King orderred them to guard the Prince.
Even so, and this is a stretch, because the KG are still loyal to the king. We know this, look at how Barriston stood until the end. Look at how Dayne and Hightower react to Jamie killing Aerys, this shows they were still loyal.
But even so, it still doesn't explain why they are there. They aren't with Rhaegar, they aren't with Rhaegar's firstborn children. They are with Lyanna and, as far as we know, a bastard.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 10:41 am to Azazello
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Well he said he wants to sit on the Iron Throne.
With Sansa. That's obviously not happening now
Posted on 6/27/16 at 10:42 am to Byron Bojangles III
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With Sansa. That's obviously not happening now
Jon could have an "accident"
Posted on 6/27/16 at 10:42 am to Cash
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Someone please explain to me who Jon Snow's mother is. I'm a bit lost there.
post of the year
Posted on 6/27/16 at 10:42 am to Hugo Stiglitz
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Just like Robert Baratheon was King. He took it by force.
Robert had a blood line claim. The Baratheon's were a bastard line of Targ and his grandmother was Rhaelle Targaryen, sister to Aerys father Jaehaerys. With the other Targs gone, he had the purest blood. The Lannisters have zero Targ in them. Yes it's somewhat semantics, but that Targ bloodline was important to the validity of Robert's claim.
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