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re: GOT line of succession (S8E4 spoilers)
Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:40 am to joshnorris14
Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:40 am to joshnorris14
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One of the bigger problems I have with the storyline from Episode 4 is Dany naming Gendry "Baratheon" and naming him the Lord of Storm's End.
Considering the current ruling dynasty is the Baratheon Dynasty, it would make Gendry have, by far, the strongest claim to the Iron Throne.
So what could possibly make Dany want to do this given the obvious implications?
No it doesn’t. The lines of succession don’t even matter anymore with so many people dead. How many empty castles do they have in Westeros now? Dany should have been handing castles out like confetti at that banquet for those who survived The Long Night. Bronn was right to ask for Highgarden.
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:45 am to joshnorris14
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So what could possibly make Dany want to do this given the obvious implications?
1. He's more of a threat to Cersei than to Dany, bc the only way Dany ever takes the throne is to overthrow the Baratheon line.
2. In any event, she took a potential challenger for the throne and made him a loyal subject, and at the same time got him to thank her for it.
3. It's completely no risk to her bc if she doesn't win none of it fricking matters. If she does win, he'll never be able to overthrow her, even if he wanted to, which he won't.
4. If I recall correctly, before naming him, she got him to acknowledge that his forebears were usurpers, i.e. acknowledge that his "claim" wasn't legitimate.
It was actually one of the most reasonable things done recently and vintage GOT.
This post was edited on 5/6/19 at 9:46 am
Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:46 am to joshnorris14
The entire War of the Seven Kingdoms bit is one big exercise in opposition research.
Posted on 5/6/19 at 10:17 am to teke184
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The prophecies in the show depict a possible future of the Red Keep destroyed with snow falling on the Iron Throne.
Either a metaphor for Jon or ash, most likely.
Posted on 5/6/19 at 10:19 am to Ace Midnight
I’m thinking ash.
You cremate thousands of people and the ashes in the air end up looking like snow. (Thanks for that one, Schindler’s List.)
You cremate thousands of people and the ashes in the air end up looking like snow. (Thanks for that one, Schindler’s List.)
Posted on 5/6/19 at 10:33 am to teke184
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(Thanks for that one, Schindler’s List.)
And the tiny red coat.
Posted on 5/6/19 at 11:31 am to joshnorris14
There is no such thing as an illegitimate claim to the throne. Sir Bron narrated the only thing that matters perfectly
"Kill a few hundred people they make you a Lord, kill a few thousand they make you a fricking King"
That's it, that's all that matters. Legitimate/illegitimate none of that shite matters if you're just willing to take the fricking throne.
"Kill a few hundred people they make you a Lord, kill a few thousand they make you a fricking King"
That's it, that's all that matters. Legitimate/illegitimate none of that shite matters if you're just willing to take the fricking throne.
Posted on 5/6/19 at 11:34 am to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
It's a lot easier to kill a few thousand people when other people believe you have a legitimate claim.
Posted on 5/6/19 at 11:48 am to joshnorris14
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Considering the current ruling dynasty is the Baratheon Dynasty, it would make Gendry have, by far, the strongest claim to the Iron Throne.
No. 1: Cercei Lannister claimed the Iron Throne by right of conquest, not by right of succession.
No. 2: Cercei is rulling as a Lannister, not a Baratheon, so Gentry has no claim to the throne with Cercei as queen because she does not recognize him as legitimate.
Cercei was flying Lannister banners in the last episode.
Gendry's claim to the throne would only be valid if Dany was on the throne, and he would be behind Jon, Dany, and their heirs. It's not a strong claim.
Posted on 5/6/19 at 12:20 pm to joshnorris14
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One of the bigger problems I have with the storyline from Episode 4 is Dany naming Gendry "Baratheon" and naming him the Lord of Storm's End. Considering the current ruling dynasty is the Baratheon Dynasty, it would make Gendry have, by far, the strongest claim to the Iron Throne.
He's only a Baratheon if she is Queen. His entire claim is only good if she is restored to power. So his claim is meaningless without her ruling. It doesn't effect Cersei at all because she doesn't acknowledge his claim to the throne, because he is still a bastard if she is Queen.
Posted on 5/6/19 at 12:41 pm to HotTakeHerald
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Her only claim to the throne now is loyalty and her dragons.
Dragon......singular.
Posted on 5/6/19 at 12:46 pm to Muthsera
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History is written by the victors.
Aegon the Conqueror was a usurper.
Was there an actual ruler of (seven) kingdoms then though?
Posted on 5/6/19 at 1:03 pm to Korin
Not as a whole, just piecemeal sections of the continent.
He barbecued the Hoars (Riverlands / Iron Islands) and Gardeners (Reach), he got the Arryns, Starks, and Lannisters to bow to him, and his bastard half brother Orys Baratheon married into the Durrandon Storm Kings.
The Crownlands didn’t exist at the time and the invasion of Dorne failed.
He barbecued the Hoars (Riverlands / Iron Islands) and Gardeners (Reach), he got the Arryns, Starks, and Lannisters to bow to him, and his bastard half brother Orys Baratheon married into the Durrandon Storm Kings.
The Crownlands didn’t exist at the time and the invasion of Dorne failed.
Posted on 5/6/19 at 1:04 pm to joshnorris14
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So what could possibly make Dany want to do this given the obvious implications?
I think her doing that placed him in Storm's End and out of contention for the iron thrown.
Posted on 5/6/19 at 1:17 pm to i am dan
That was one of several things she did through that.
She recognized a hero of the battle and rewarded him, which was good PR as well as making him personally grateful to her.
Considering Gendry’s first reaction was “Now I am a socially acceptable match for Arya”, rising higher was the last thing on his mind. And in fact he may end up turning it down if it means he gets to pound her with his hammer.
She recognized a hero of the battle and rewarded him, which was good PR as well as making him personally grateful to her.
Considering Gendry’s first reaction was “Now I am a socially acceptable match for Arya”, rising higher was the last thing on his mind. And in fact he may end up turning it down if it means he gets to pound her with his hammer.
Posted on 5/6/19 at 1:21 pm to joshnorris14
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Considering the current ruling dynasty is the Baratheon Dynasty
At Cersei's coronation, Qyburn said:
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I now proclaim Cersei of the House Lannister First of Her Name, Queen of the Andals and the First Men, Protector of the Seven Kingdoms. Long may she reign.
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