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GOT line of succession (S8E4 spoilers)

Posted on 5/6/19 at 8:01 am
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 8:01 am
One of the bigger problems I have with the storyline from Episode 4 is Dany naming Gendry "Baratheon" and naming him the Lord of Storm's End.

Considering the current ruling dynasty is the Baratheon Dynasty, it would make Gendry have, by far, the strongest claim to the Iron Throne.

So what could possibly make Dany want to do this given the obvious implications?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 8:01 am to
this is actually fricking hilarious

Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
45217 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 8:03 am to
I've been on the King Gendry bandwagon forever now, so I'm obviously intrigued, but I thought the political implications of a Sansa ruled North with an Arya Stark / Gendry ruled six kingdoms would be a much better plot than this shite.
Posted by HotTakeHerald
Member since Sep 2017
129 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 8:04 am to
Her only claim to the throne now is loyalty and her dragons. Why does it matter if she has the second or third best claim.

If anything, it makes sense to give a royal bastard the claim over beloved Jon Snow, who has the loyalty of the Nights of the Vale and other houses of the north.
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
14577 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 8:06 am to
Wasn't Robert a usurper in the first place?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 8:07 am to
quote:

Considering the current ruling dynasty is the Baratheon Dynasty, it would make Gendry have, by far, the strongest claim to the Iron Throne.


Dany doesn't seem to have much regard for any claim to the throne other than her own. Don't see how this would matter to her or her mission.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95429 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 8:10 am to
There will be a Great Council that will go “frick this shite” and pick the next king out of a hat at this point.
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 8:10 am to
Because his father was a usurper which means to her Gendry's claim is invalid
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95429 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 8:12 am to
Robert’s claim was legally due to his Targaryen grandmother and at that moment there were no other Targaryens there to dispute the matter.

Now there are at least two with a better claim than Gendry.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 8:15 am to
Game of Thrones(S)

This show is going to end up with One a-hole in Kings Landing and 3-4 other assholes being Lords/Ladies of wherever the frick.
Posted by Muthsera
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 8:17 am to
quote:

Wasn't Robert a usurper in the first place?


History is written by the victors.

Aegon the Conqueror was a usurper.
Posted by JohnDoe00
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2019
814 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 8:18 am to
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Her only claim to the throne now is loyalty and her dragon.


Fixed it for you.
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
14577 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 8:18 am to
Then someone needs to dispute the Targaryen line of succession. Until that happens, the Baratheon line of succession is easily disputed.
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 8:19 am to
quote:

Considering the current ruling dynasty is the Baratheon Dynasty, it would make Gendry have, by far, the strongest claim to the Iron Throne.


Gendry's legitimacy is tied directly to Dany. If Dany fails he has no claim. If she succeeds he becomes Lord of Storm's End. Loyal to the person who legitimized him.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95429 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 8:20 am to
We may not even get that.

The prophecies in the show depict a possible future of the Red Keep destroyed with snow falling on the Iron Throne.

Combine that with Cersei already having nuked the Sept of Baelor with wildfire and Jamie killing the Mad King because he threatened to burn King’s Landing rather than lose. Everything from Robert’s victory to the present may end up having been on borrowed time because Cersei finished what the Mad King tried to start.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22164 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 8:21 am to
quote:

So what could possibly make Dany want to do this given the obvious implications?


Because none of that matters until she is queen. After she is queen, it doesn't matter if he had a claim. It's gone now.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110841 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:36 am to
quote:

this is actually fricking hilarious
You have to ignore a whole lot of stuff going on to just run with that narrative.



Are we even trying any more? Or just shitting on any and everything for the sake of shitting on any and everything?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110841 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:38 am to
quote:

One of the bigger problems I have with the storyline from Episode 4 is Dany naming Gendry "Baratheon" and naming him the Lord of Storm's End.

Considering the current ruling dynasty is the Baratheon Dynasty, it would make Gendry have, by far, the strongest claim to the Iron Throne.

So what could possibly make Dany want to do this given the obvious implications?
What you're saying certainly has merit, but I do think sometimes we get a little too caught up on who has a rightful claim and forget that some people just stake their claim through force.

Seeing as how Robert got the crown from the Targ, it makes perfect sense for Dany to not recognize that claim, right? And in not doing so, it also makes perfect sense for her to give Gendry Storm's End and that not mean she's contradicting her own claim.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66503 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:38 am to
If you accept the current ruling dynasty as legitimate.

Dany thinks she’s the rightful ruler, so I dont Think she cares too much about the royal bloodline.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115789 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:40 am to
quote:

Gendry's legitimacy is tied directly to Dany. If Dany fails he has no claim. If she succeeds he becomes Lord of Storm's End. Loyal to the person who legitimized him.




FInally someone who understands, not the same old 'lol this show sucks" people.
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