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re: Game of Thrones Season 5 - Episode 8 :"Hardhome" Readers Thread (Spoilers)

Posted on 6/3/15 at 12:31 pm to
Posted by JumpingTheShark
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 12:31 pm to
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Seems like a really good archer and a quiver of dragonglass arrows could take out all the WW in one battle.


Biggest quiver ever.
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 12:32 pm to
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I'm that situation, would Jaqen be cool with her just jetting off after she's been trained in their secrets/magic, etc? Seems like that would put her on the FM public enemy #1 list
At this point, I don't think so. In the books, they keep giving her the chance to quit, if she chooses to. However, I do think there will be a point of no return, in which she is told that she has to serve for life or go. I think the needle issue I mentioned will be it.

Then again, they might let her keep it. In the books, the reason she doesn't toss it is because, by her reasoning, the sword came to her, not specifically Arya. She was Arya when she got it, Arry when she lost it, and she went by another name when she got it back. She considers it HER possession, not Arya's.
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 12:32 pm to
Make Sam learn how to shoot a bow

Call him the pussy quiver
Posted by JumpingTheShark
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 12:33 pm to
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Then again, they might let her keep it. In the books, the reason she doesn't toss it is because, by her reasoning, the sword came to her, not specifically Arya. She was Arya when she got it, Arry when she lost it, and she went by another name when she got it back. She considers it HER possession, not Arya's.


That's true and I couldn't tell if the show was going to note that.
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 12:41 pm to
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I'm that situation, would Jaqen be cool with her just jetting off after she's been trained in their secrets/magic, etc? Seems like that would put her on the FM public enemy #1 list


For some reason this reminds me of the part of the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy where a certain order of monks teach their apprentices amazing powers but that extraordinary numbers of them quit right after completing their training but before taking their final vows to remain trapped in a small metal box for the rest of their lives.
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 12:42 pm to
I think they didn't have to because they intend for it to be an important future scene. If what I predict happens, her speech in that scene will be something like what she was thinking when she hid the sword.
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 2:16 pm to
The most we have ever seen at one time was four.

Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 2:36 pm to
Posted by ohiovol
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 2:40 pm to
What about when the nights king transformed the baby? Seemed like more than four.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 2:42 pm to
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Or the water could be 5 feet deep right there.


Or he could have given her a different coin. You guys think, that is the only coin like that?
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 2:43 pm to
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What about when the nights king transformed the baby? Seemed like more than four.


there were 13, part of the ruling "council"?

I suspect there are many more than just 13 WW.
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 2:49 pm to
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I suspect there are many more than just 13 WW.

There's no telling how long they have been turning babies either, so there could be hundreds of them for all we know.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 3:19 pm to
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Or he could have given her a different coin. You guys think, that is the only coin like that?
That too, but what I really want to know is why does she throw it BACK into the bay along with her other things? Obviously, he wanted her to have it.
Posted by putt23
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 4:07 pm to
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I suspect there are many more than just 13 WW. There's no telling how long they have been turning babies either, so there could be hundreds of them for all we know.


I guess it depends if the babies are growing up to be WWs or Wights.

We have to assume they are the WWs because they aren't dead when they turn. We see all the little kids that were Wights and they just decay not age.

Maybe they are part of the army of the dead as they age and we just couldn't tell. But they eventually get old enough to be a WW

The WW look older, or at least, different from the NK too. Until we get more back story on them, who really knows.

It could be that every ranger that goes "missing" has become part of the NK's crew
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 5:24 pm to
I'm not sold on Show Night's King = Book Night's King.

I think the show just calls him that because it best describes him. The show night's King is much much older and more powerful
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 5:26 pm to
One can probably be turned by the WWs at any point. Babies are just easier to indoctrinate as they know nothing else, similar to the children of Bama fans.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 5:27 pm to
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I think the show just calls him that because it best describes him. The show night's King is much much older and more powerful


We still don't know how powerful the shows night king is
Posted by putt23
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 5:28 pm to
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The show night's King is much much older and more powerful


That's probably right. I think the very first one that looked at Sam looked really old. That was a couple seasons ago, so they can just update the way they want them to look. Kinda like Tyrion's hair in S1 to now.

I even felt the one that Jon Snow killed looked older than the NK. It's hard to tell cause they have hair and he doesn't
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 5:29 pm to
Raising hundreds/thousands of the dead by simply raising his arms is a pretty good start.
Posted by putt23
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 5:31 pm to
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