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re: Game of Thrones Season 5 - Episode 8 :"Hardhome" Readers Thread (Spoilers)

Posted on 6/3/15 at 5:35 pm to
Posted by volnavy
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 5:35 pm to
Does it have to be people killed by them or is any dead person allowed? Are the cemeteries of Westeros safe?
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 5:39 pm to
What episode had the NK with the baby and the evil council?

ETA: Oathkeeper. Found it
This post was edited on 6/3/15 at 5:50 pm
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 5:39 pm to
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Raising hundreds/thousands of the dead by simply raising his arms is a pretty good start.


That happens automatically if you don't burn the bodies.
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 5:40 pm to
Any dead person can be raised. That's why they burn their dead, regardless of cause of death.

eta: watch out for the crypts at Winterfell. Sean Bean could yet be back on the show, though I'm sure he'll be rekilled quickly.
This post was edited on 6/3/15 at 5:44 pm
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 5:42 pm to
Didn't start happening automatically until the WW reappeared. Coincidence? I think not.
Posted by volnavy
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 6:07 pm to
Robb Stark will be awesome!
Posted by Bamatab
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 6:44 pm to
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I'm not sold on Show Night's King = Book Night's King.

I think the show just calls him that because it best describes him. The show night's King is much much older and more powerful

Did Old Nan ever tell Bran the story of the Night's King on the show? I could see the show's Night's King not being the same person as the book's Night's King that was king of the Night's Watch back during the Age of the Heroes.

Oh, and Psych...

Posted by ffishstik
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 6:56 pm to
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That happens automatically if you don't burn the bodies.


No, they have to be raised by the WWs, they don't just turn like in TWD, at least not in the books. Jon actually tested this. He took a few wildling bodies that they found in the Weirwood grove where they found Wun Wun and placed them in the ice cells to see if they would turn; they didn't.
This post was edited on 6/3/15 at 6:56 pm
Posted by putt23
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 7:00 pm to
from everything I've read they have to be "raised" or "turned"
Posted by Bamatab
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 8:24 pm to
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from everything I've read they have to be "raised" or "turned"

I'm pretty sure only dead people can be turned into wights. And White Walkers are the turned living babies.

Now what I wonder is if living adults can be turned into White Walkers. If they can, I'm guessing they would have to be willing.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 8:31 pm to
Didn't they turn in the show?
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 8:34 pm to
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Now what I wonder is if living adults can be turned into White Walkers. If they can, I'm guessing they would have to be willing.


If the Nights King was in fact a former LC of the NW, then it seems he would have been turned as an adult.
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 9:04 pm to
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If the Nights King was in fact a former LC of the NW, then it seems he would have been turned as an adult.

True. But I'm wondering if the show's NK is the same has the book's NK legend. I asked this already (can't remember if it was in this thread or not), but on the show did Old Nan tell Bran the story about the NK?
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 10:30 pm to
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If the Nights King was in fact a former LC of the NW, then it seems he would have been turned as an adult.

Yeah. But he was doing the nasty with a female white walker apparently. The whole giving her his soul when he gave her his seed might have had something to do with him turning as a living adult.
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 6/3/15 at 11:36 pm to
On another note: WIGHTS are athletic!

What would be the typical 40 time of a WIGHT? Vertical jump? Shuttle run? Broad jump?

WIGHTS are way better athletes than the zombies from the walking dead
Posted by the smoke monster
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 12:01 am to
The "wights" are the ones the Others bring back from the dead, right? Like the one that attacked Jon in season 1, they seemed to be more slow and zombie ish.

What are these fast zombie skeletons called? Like the ones that killed jojen last season, Are those some other type of Other force?
Posted by FeedingFrenzy
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 12:04 am to
Wouldn't the reason they didn't turn in the ice cell be because the wall blocks white walker magic kind of like coldhands couldn't pass through it?
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 12:20 am to
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What are these fast zombie skeletons called? Like the ones that killed jojen last season, Are those some other type of Other force?

They are wights also.
Posted by WalkingTurtles
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 12:26 am to
Gendry is still out there rowing that boat.
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 9:01 am to
I think those are Wights that have been Wights for a while. The ones that look more human are the ones who were more recently turned.
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