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re: Game of Thrones S8 E4 "The Last of the Starks" Official Thread

Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:13 am to
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:13 am to
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Keep it simple.

Dany just flies Drogon straight up REALLY REALLY high, flies over KL then nose dives straight down behind the defenses and roasts the walls.


Attacking from up high, out of the sun, would be a great offense/defense against those scorpions. Doubt they can shoot at too high of an angle, and there should be no way for them to be able to swing around quickly to get a bead on a moving target. Dive, strafe, and repeat.
Posted by hg
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:15 am to


The seige of Kings Landing

Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:15 am to
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Do book readers want the most predictable plot or not?


I want a plot that isn’t intentionally misleading. A fricking 5 year old can come up with a story that is intentionally misleading. The writing was on the wall for Ned’s death and the Red Wedding. Do it with skill and not be a hack.
Posted by St Augustine
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:16 am to
I’m just surprised that many unsullied were able to swim don’t think they’ve had any practice
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Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:17 am to
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The writing was on the wall for Ned’s death and the Red Wedding. Do it with skill and not be a hack.



So you want the plot to be obvious. Got it
Posted by LSU Coyote
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:18 am to
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So you want the plot to be obvious. Got it

You can't be this dumb.
Posted by Gabriel Susan Lewis
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:19 am to
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So i know jamie killing cersei fulfills the prophecy but i think it’s also possible he may be going to kill dany. He was just told by sansa that a dragon was killed and missande is being held prisoner. Jamie remembers when the mad king got so pissed that he said burn them all. He may be thinking that is exactly what dany is about to do and he wants to stop her.


It Could be this because hereacted when Sansa said I guess I’ll miss the opportunity to see her executed. In other words Dany is gonna burn them all
Posted by Damone
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:19 am to
Kind of makes you wonder why Cersei wouldn't have fired huge arrow missiles and a volley of arrows at them to just end it.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:20 am to
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So you want the plot to be obvious. Got it


I swear so many of you are reminding me of the idiot adults in South Park that blindly cheer on anything and anyone doing something different no matter how dumb, absurd, or disgusting it is.

Posted by Damone
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:21 am to
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Doubt they can shoot at too high of an angle, and there should be no way for them to be able to swing around quickly to get a bead on a moving target.

Apparently they're accurate enough to hit multiple follow-up shots on a moving target hundreds of feet in the air from a moving boat.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:21 am to
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You can't be this dumb.




He used 2 examples that he self admits were foreshadowed to back up his idea that he likes twists.
Posted by Mystery
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:21 am to
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Ghost. I understand that Jon felt like he was walking away from the North for good and I also understand that Ghost would be better off in the North, however they could have made this scene so much better. Easily too


All the Ghost shots seem to be green screen. He is just being put into the scene after the fact. It is why nobody can interact with him. They are not filming with live animals on set like they did in the old days. Having him go North is just a way to get fans to shut up about him.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:22 am to
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He used 2 examples that he self admits were foreshadowed to back up his idea that he likes twists.


So in your mind, a twist has to be something that the writers did not allude to whatsoever previously in the plot? You don’t think the end of the Sixth Sense was a twist? The evidence was there if you were paying attention.
Posted by Damone
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:24 am to
It's easy scenes like that, a minute or less interaction between Jon and Ghost, that can bring out so much emotion, that the show just fails at. That's the point of a dog, it evokes an emotional response because damn near everyone likes dogs. It may as well have been Jon's favorite cloak or cooking kettle that he told Tormund to hang onto.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:24 am to
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Apparently they're accurate enough to hit multiple follow-up shots on a moving target hundreds of feet in the air from a moving boat.


True, but that was at a low angle against an inexplicably surprised foe.



Military blunder after military blunder for Dany and the gang.

On second thought, there should be no way for Dany to overcome those scorpions. She's fricked because she sucks at strategy and simple observation from an elevated position.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:25 am to
That spoiler thread is out the arse right now, which leads me to think that’s not a good thing. It’s like 1/5 the size of this thread.
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:27 am to
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The writing was on the wall for Ned’s death and the Red Wedding.
When you get Ned's death either in the books or show for the first time, you are shocked. It makes sense because it aligns with Joffrey's character, but it's still not something most people expected because we are trained as consumers to believe the good guys always win. The Red Wedding was slightly less shocking because by then most people understood that GOT was different. But it wasn't done for the sake of itself. It was essential to move the plot forward.

That's my issue with DD. They've admittedly made no attempt to build this around the characters and plot. Their central focus is the consumer and getting a specific response from them.
Posted by Mystery
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:27 am to
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That spoiler thread is out the arse right now, which leads me to think that’s not a good thing. It’s like 1/5 the size of this thread.


Not surprised that 50 Tiger guy started it. He is addicted to spoilers.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:29 am to
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The seige of Kings Landing



Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 9:29 am to
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Gendry does technically now have a claim to the throne.


I was kinda hoping that once she made him legitimate that he'd be like "So yeah...now that we've taken care of that, I kiiiiiiiiinda think I want what is rightfully mine, the iron throne."

Last night's episode had just a weird vibe to it the whole time IMO.

Something was really off with Grey Worm. Hell, he weirdly looked like he had gained about 20 pounds or something.

Gendry proposing to Arya was super weird, and pretty stupid IMO. I know they've known each other for a while, but she comes back to Winterfell, and they bang one out, and now he's in love and wants her to marry him? And he should've known her answer before he asked it. That just felt really stupid and out of place.

The dragon biting it so fast was just weird as well. They're flying around and all of a sudden like 5 or 6 perfectly placed shots come out of nowhere and kill him (and also don't touch Drogon)? That just felt weird as well.

The entire Bronn scene felt weird and out of place too. First off, it came out of nowhere. Secondly, it was completely out of character for Bronn. I know he's basically still a sellsword, but it just didn't make sense that what amounts to be his two closest friends in the world are now his enemies because Cersei wants him to kill them. He even brought up Tyrion's offer. I kept waiting for him to drop the crossbow and be like "I'm just fricking with you conts.." but he never did. It just felt weird and out of place too.

The whole Jaime and Brienne thing just felt REALLY awkward and forced. I get that she's been in love with him forever, but he never has. I feel like he grew to respect her, and while he cared for her, he would never actually fall for her. That just seemed so weird and forced. And Tormund getting friend zoned just made me sad, so I was glad to see him rebound with some Winterfell hoes.

Jon's goodbye with Tormund was nice, but the whole Ghost thing was just weird. That is his direwolf that he has been connected with (physically and spiritually, or whatever) since it was born, and he doesn't even say anything to it or even pet it. I get that it may be a CGI issue, but come on...and even if he's not Ned Stark's true-born son, he is still half Stark and has the connection to the wolf.

I really enjoyed the Hound/Arya and Hound/Sansa scenes though.

Jon's speech at the beginning was a little corny, but I liked it. I did feel like they wasted an awful lot of wood and other fire supplies though.

This whole episode showed me that Cersei is playing chess while Dany is playing checkers. Even with people like Varys and Tyrion coaching her to not fall for Cersei's bullshite, she still is anyway. And Cersei is controlling the entire situation at her whim at this point.
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