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re: Game of Thrones S8 E3 "The Long Night." Official Thread

Posted on 4/29/19 at 1:36 am to
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 4/29/19 at 1:36 am to
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I stand by that


And you should.

It wasnt a good death scene because Sansa didnt earn it. She didnt figure out LF, Bran told them everything.

And LF didnt behave the way he normally would have. As soon as he had that conversation with Bran (chaos is a ladder) per season 6 LF would have bolted back to the Vale. And how he handled the trial was laughable. It was well received because people wanted him to get his punishment, not because it makes sense to his character.

That most fan service to be honest, it's what we want to see, not what actually makes in universe sense.
Posted by 19
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Posted on 4/29/19 at 1:37 am to
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That's honestly what I figured people would be most pissed off about in this episode. The Dothraki have been built up for 7 seasons (longer than the Night King) to be the most ferocious warriors on the planet and they went down faster than the old knights.


Wait till 20k of them show up to attack KL next week...the meltdown will be legendary.

These dipshits never cease to amaze me.
Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 4/29/19 at 1:38 am to
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No clue why people could possibly hold this opinion. 8 seasons of WINTER IS COMING. we must defend the realms of men. Our silly 7 kingdoms, titles, names, blah, wont matter if we dont fight the NK. Jon Snow, Sam, others even since episode 1 were beheaded trying to warn people the NK was the true enemy. The whole point of this entire story is that the living are the truly dangerous and will continue to be is a foolish position to hold. Cersei wasn’t a relevant threat until like season4. Danny literally paused her war for the iron throne to face the threat of the dead.


Winter is coming does not mean white walkers are coming, it’s the starks motto. You are getting it all twisted in your mind
Posted by GCTiger11
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 4/29/19 at 1:38 am to
So what's stopping Arya from disguising herself as a whore in a brothel to kill Euron, and what's stopping two dragons from just doing literally what they did to a bunch of wights to her men?
Posted by PEPE
Member since Jun 2018
8198 posts
Posted on 4/29/19 at 1:40 am to
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Pretty wild how they could off the entire Dorthaki in such a short amount of time, but not one of them can kill fat arse crybaby Sam literally laying on his back


I've absolutely come to hate Sam with a passion. I do really believe the theory that he's a fantasy stand in for GRRM's fat arse.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/29/19 at 1:44 am to
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And LF didnt behave the way he normally would have. As soon as he had that conversation with Bran (chaos is a ladder) per season 6 LF would have bolted back to the Vale. And how he handled the trial was laughable. It was well received because people wanted him to get his punishment, not because it makes sense to his character.


Littlefinger was always the cowardly little runt that grew up in the Vale, and when for the first time in the series he realized he couldn’t manipulate his way out of a situation he did exactly what cowardly runts do. He realized Bran knew everything and nothing he could say could save him.

I thought it was very realistic, because we’d never see him in that situation before. And he showed who he really was.
Posted by SEClint
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Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 4/29/19 at 1:44 am to
Next thing I'm looking forward to is Hound Vs Mountain
Posted by red_giraffe
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 4/29/19 at 1:47 am to
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I hope there’s another twist coming.


Same here.
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 4/29/19 at 1:58 am to
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 be honest, the NK was just a plot device to pull together storylines and to weaken Dany’s forces. With three dragons, unsullied, and Dothraki, she would have demolished Cersei and easily taken the throne.


It is a commonly used trope. I'm not a fan of it seeing as how this show is supposed to subvert tropes.

A similar example is the new Star Wars trilogy. In TFA the good guys are actually in the powerful position because the Republic is in charge. By TFA, the good guys are on the run despite dealing a crippling blow to the bad guys superweapon.

Extra material trys to explain it, but the point is they changed the story because a small group of rebels is easier to cheer for.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 4/29/19 at 1:59 am to
Night King still living in Bran from the touch type of twist?

Was his plan all along?
Posted by GCTiger11
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Jan 2012
46142 posts
Posted on 4/29/19 at 2:04 am to
Bran's eyes opening blue at one point would be most interesting
Posted by red_giraffe
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 4/29/19 at 2:05 am to
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Night King still living in Bran from the touch type of twist? Was his plan all along?


Honestly, that would be better than the entire NK storyline ending right here and now.
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
Member since Dec 2009
23223 posts
Posted on 4/29/19 at 2:08 am to
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I've absolutely come to hate Sam with a passion. I do really believe the theory that he's a fantasy stand in for GRRM's fat arse


I think so.

-Sam was the first person in Westeros to figure out how to kill a White Walker
-Sam was the first person to recognize Jon's importance as a leader
-Sam is the only person in the world who can figure out how to cure Grey Scale
-Sam is the only person in Westeros (w/ Gilly's help) to figure out Jon's true heritage
-Sam isn't much of a fighter but always speaks from his heart

It was almost a plot twist that they made him useless tonight.
Posted by FLBooGoTigs1
Nocatee, FL.
Member since Jan 2008
59270 posts
Posted on 4/29/19 at 2:08 am to
Nk can drop a dragon and raise the dead but Arya ganked his arse right in front of all his dead peeps
Posted by PEPE
Member since Jun 2018
8198 posts
Posted on 4/29/19 at 2:14 am to
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Night King still living in Bran from the touch type of twist?

Was his plan all along?


Bran becoming the next Night King would be pretty epic and actually give Bran a meaningful purpose besides just sitting there and doing autism
This post was edited on 4/29/19 at 2:15 am
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 4/29/19 at 2:17 am to
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I thought it was very realistic, because we’d never see him in that situation before. And he showed who he really was.


I will admit it exposed who LF was as a person.

What I'm saying is, in universe LF would have never been stupid enough to fall into that trap. Doing things like asking for a trial by combat and waiting for a champion is part of the rules established in this world.

Even as case, if you take out the fact that everyone just believes Bran (including Yon Royce) then you have to admit that Sansa doesn't have a shred of physical evidence.

A) She did remember that Littlefinger pushed Lysa out the Moondoor. But LF could bring up that she admitted it was to protect her from Lysa IN HER OWN TESTIMONY TO THE VALE ADVISORS.

B) No proof that he plotted with Lysa to kill Lord Arryn.

C) Even Neds death cant be proven to be Littlefinger fault. If anything it would be more convincing to be Joffrey fault.

We as the audience know hes Responsible for these things, but there's no way for the characters to know these save for plot devices (TER Bran) or to figure it out themselves.

I understand that the show was just trying to close out a plotline. But it doesn't make the criticism any less valid. There is such a thing as valid criticism, and having a limited budget doesn't change that.
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
51733 posts
Posted on 4/29/19 at 2:18 am to
My predictions aren't right therefore it's bad writing.
Posted by KingwoodLsuFan
Member since Aug 2008
11447 posts
Posted on 4/29/19 at 2:24 am to
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My predictions aren't right therefore it's bad writing.

Could care less if my predictions are right. Doesn't change the fact this is bad fanfiction writing to make arya look like superman and have a happily ever after Disney ending.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 4/29/19 at 2:26 am to
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Somthe upshot is that the living won, but the North has no army left.


I think everyone in this battle is hardened to the point where they would walk into her room, look at the mountain like he isnt shite..because compared to what we just saw, he isnt.. cut her throat and say "next order of business?"


ETA

Bronn is gonna show up and be like "wtf"

And Davos is Rick Grimes type of Lucky.
This post was edited on 4/29/19 at 2:30 am
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
51733 posts
Posted on 4/29/19 at 2:28 am to
Arya is a trained assassin who's known for getting the drop on people. And we still got three episodes left very possible mean more big names die. You're just overreacting because you thought the endgame was with the NK not the throne
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