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re: Game of Thrones S7E1 "Dragonstone" Maester thread, no dummies allowed
Posted on 7/17/17 at 4:05 pm to Sneaky__Sally
Posted on 7/17/17 at 4:05 pm to Sneaky__Sally
No she seems to only be focused on taking "back what's hers". Most likely she nor anyone around her believes White Walkers exist.
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 4:05 pm to DelU249
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you're talking about believability.
if you think it's stupid to leave it unmanned consider how smart cersei is (not at all)
Ya i guess i just didn't consider her smarts. It is very glossed over for a show which was a lot of fluff and filler over the last 2.5 seasons.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 4:05 pm to KingwoodLsuFan
and Tyrion would laugh at any suggestion of white walkers
Posted on 7/17/17 at 4:06 pm to DelU249
If the Lannisters garrison Dragonstone, Danny could land anywhere from Dorne to Storm's End.
The Lannisters barely have enough men to hold KL and the west at this point.
The Lannisters barely have enough men to hold KL and the west at this point.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 4:08 pm to CorporateTiger
Does Howland Reed emerge this season?
I still believe its gonna happen..................
I still believe its gonna happen..................
Posted on 7/17/17 at 4:11 pm to CorporateTiger
What I'm trying to get through but dragonstone is perfect
Land somewhere else and you use resources to have a launch point. Dragonstone is historically analogous to what she's doing its historically significant and it's perfect for such a fleet and within striking distance of the red keep
Land somewhere else and you use resources to have a launch point. Dragonstone is historically analogous to what she's doing its historically significant and it's perfect for such a fleet and within striking distance of the red keep
Posted on 7/17/17 at 4:12 pm to DelU249
Yeah Dragonstone is the ideal landing point. I just think the stronger military logic is not to split up your forces when you are already out numbered.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 4:13 pm to CorporateTiger
Agreed.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 4:13 pm to DelU249
Yes, but that wasn't the case for the entire past 2.5 seasons?
I guess Cersei fricked everything up by killing all her allies, but that just annoys me for different reasons.
I guess Cersei fricked everything up by killing all her allies, but that just annoys me for different reasons.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 4:13 pm to CorporateTiger
quote:No they aren't. They haven't fought any major battles, and they're a pretty massive army, I think the 2nd largest next to the Tyrell's.
Lannister army is (a) basically depleted at this point,
quote:Casterly Rock is a mountain fortress similar to the Vale (though previews suggest that Dany's army attacks it) and KL is a fortified city as well, so it takes less people to defend than it does to attack successfully.
(b) has to defend KL and Casterly Rock from the Tyrells
With the Frey family dead, I don't know how their army is being used, but they were left in charge of Riverrun. They might still hold it.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 4:14 pm to CorporateTiger
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I liked a story where the villains were responsible for their own actions. The idea that Bran could have influenced every villain for generations means that all of the dislike for people like Joffrey, and Ramsay, and Cersei, and Aerys, and Viserys is all potentially invalid.
Its not like Bran could control his impact on Hodor...... He made him a dimwitted mute, for god's sake. he didn't alter history.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 4:15 pm to DelU249
If Cersei wasn't a complete idiot and hadn't alienated half of the realm with various acts of incompetence, then things are much different.
If she had Highgarden on her side she could probably afford to garrison along that coast and deny Danny a landing point except Dorne (or I guess the North?)
If she had Highgarden on her side she could probably afford to garrison along that coast and deny Danny a landing point except Dorne (or I guess the North?)
Posted on 7/17/17 at 4:15 pm to DelU249
Harkening back to my bitching about Sansa being a fricking moron, none of the other Lords in the North fought alongside Jon, should they too get their lands stripped?
frickin idiot, so glad she wasn't elected queen in the north.
frickin idiot, so glad she wasn't elected queen in the north.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 4:15 pm to CorporateTiger
I can't really argue military tactics - i think allowing them to regroup on your doorstep is a pretty poor choice. It just seems to have received no treatment despite being a pretty damn major factor. It took her 3 seasons to get ships and then in 2 episodes "ok cool, sail to an open castle that is perfect for us to regroup and set up an attack".
So be it, cersei is an idiot that also managed to become queen a couple times - she is blinded to her true enemies i suppose. I've accepted it.
So be it, cersei is an idiot that also managed to become queen a couple times - she is blinded to her true enemies i suppose. I've accepted it.
This post was edited on 7/17/17 at 4:16 pm
Posted on 7/17/17 at 4:16 pm to Sneaky__Sally
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I guess Cersei fricked everything up by killing all her allies
When she fricked with Highgarden she lost a substantial part of her military backing and most of her food source.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 4:16 pm to Xenophon
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Why garrison it though? They would be defeated quickly. Or Dany just sails to Dorne instead.
The only reason I could gather was as guard post for the entrance to BW bay and also to house a few naval elements that might patrol the bay and the nearbye coast. I guess that wasnt viewed as important though.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 4:18 pm to blueboy
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No they aren't. They haven't fought any major battles, and they're a pretty massive army, I think the 2nd largest next to the Tyrell's.
They actually fought quite a bit in the Riverlands against Robb. Since then they have been losing raids to Beric and have had to control a huge swathe of the continent.
I thought the books made it pretty clear that the Lannister army isn't in great shape anymore (not to mention their funding issue).
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With the Frey family dead, I don't know how their army is being used, but they were left in charge of Riverrun. They might still hold it.
Considering we see some Lannister troops going up to the Twins, I think it safe to say that the Freys are effectively wiped off the board at this point.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 4:19 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
Its unbelievable that Little Finger has positioned himself in the North and has an extreme position of power considering Jon needs his men.
the best player in the game IMO.
the best player in the game IMO.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 4:19 pm to DoUrden
actually Tyrion burned their own fleet setting a trap for stannis.
necessary at the time and ironic now that he's playing for team dany.
necessary at the time and ironic now that he's playing for team dany.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 4:23 pm to CBandits82
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the best player in the game IMO.
Varys has him beat right now.
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