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re: Game of Thrones S6:E3 "Oathbreaker" Bookreader Thread

Posted on 5/8/16 at 11:25 pm to
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 5/8/16 at 11:25 pm to
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Right, because Martin just spent three paragraphs telling you exactly what's up. We know they know, but the TV audience doesn't.


Martin doesn't really explain it up front. You get the context of why it is important afterwards in the "Promise me, Ned" line.

Look I get it, the show is an adaptation of the books, but that scene is probably one of the 5 or so most discussed scenes in the whole book (Dany's visions, the Red Wedding, and TOJ if I had to guess). It also has some of the best dialogue in the whole series. Would it have killed them to leave most of it intact for the book readers?
Posted by DukeSilver
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 5/8/16 at 11:27 pm to
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So I assume that the show is just dropping the idea that the Three-Eyed Raven is Brynden Blackfyre?
Brynden Rivers, AKA Bloodraven.

He isn't a Blackfrye.
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 5/8/16 at 11:27 pm to
Because Ice is fricking huge and unveiled in a fight like that
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 5/8/16 at 11:28 pm to
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I'm sorry, but if I go on a massive pilgrimage somewhere with 6 friends, and I see the thing that I'm after, I'm not going to ask where that something is when it is right in front of my fricking face. You're just going to talk about it, not ask where it is despite the fact you've been on a 5 day road trip to get there. It utterly retarded he asks that question.
Because the TV viewers don't know shite, and they want to spell it out for them.

You know what? Harp away. Maybe your head will explode.
Posted by FlappingPierre
St. George
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 5/8/16 at 11:28 pm to
I rolled my eyes when they had Maestor Pycelle just fricking fart when the Mountain came in...
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 5/8/16 at 11:28 pm to
You are correct. I knew he was around during the whole Blackfyre saga, but it definitely doesn't mesh with being in the three 1000 years.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 5/8/16 at 11:29 pm to
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Hightower: Our knees do not bend so easily.
Ned: How is Lyana?
Dayne: Struggling, but we swore a vow.

Isn't that much better?


I like you OML but thats not much better at all
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 5/8/16 at 11:29 pm to
You could even go up to the tower and show Lyanna there without reveal Jon.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 5/8/16 at 11:30 pm to
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The viewers barely remember that Ned has a sister, even with the brief mention in the prologue.


If the Hodors can't remember after one god damn episode that Lyanna is Ned's sister, then frick em. We shouldn't have to make the show wise simply to feed these idiots. If this show simply feeds to them, then they're no better than the Big Bang Theory writers.
Posted by FlappingPierre
St. George
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 5/8/16 at 11:30 pm to
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Hightower: Our knees do not bend so easily.
Ned: How is Lyana?
Dayne: Struggling, but we swore a vow.

Isn't that much better?


No it is much fricking worse
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
63189 posts
Posted on 5/8/16 at 11:33 pm to
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Ned: How is Lyana?
Dayne: Struggling, but we swore a vow.

Isn't that much better?
No.

D&D don't want the audience to know she's "struggling" at all. She screams and they don't know why. She could be getting tortured. They have no idea. It's more shocking for them if it's suddenly revealed that she's having a child.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 5/8/16 at 11:33 pm to
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I like you OML but thats not much better at all


Well, I came up with that on a whim. There could have been a much better way of putting it than "Where is my sister". But I don't think it's all that important in the first place to say this since I assume it will be explained by the end of the season on who Jon is.
Posted by DukeSilver
Member since Jan 2014
2937 posts
Posted on 5/8/16 at 11:34 pm to
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You are correct. I knew he was around during the whole Blackfyre saga, but it definitely doesn't mesh with being in the three 1000 years.
Oh agreed, just throwing that out there because he was vehemently against the Blackfryes.
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 5/8/16 at 11:35 pm to
Great piece of writing
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 5/8/16 at 11:35 pm to
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Because Ice is fricking huge and unveiled in a fight like that

So just because it's a big arse sword, someone can't learn how to use it effectively? Hell, a Valyrian steel sword as big as Ice would break most normal swords. What use would the sword be if you can't actually use it in a real fight?

Plus, isn't Dawn also a great sword?
This post was edited on 5/8/16 at 11:37 pm
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
63189 posts
Posted on 5/8/16 at 11:37 pm to
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We shouldn't have to make the show wise simply to feed these idiots.
Well, get over it. There are a lot more people who don't read than ones who do.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 5/8/16 at 11:38 pm to
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How about this line of dialogue:
Hightower: Our knees do not bend so easily.
Ned: How is Lyana?
Dayne: Struggling, but we swore a vow.

Isn't that much better


Yeesh. No
Posted by Cockopotamus
Member since Jan 2013
15942 posts
Posted on 5/8/16 at 11:39 pm to
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D&D don't want the audience to know she's "struggling" at all. She screams and they don't know why. She could be getting tortured. They have no idea. It's more shocking for them if it's suddenly revealed that she's having a child.



According to you D&D will be lucky if the Hodors even remember a scream by the end of the epsiode
Posted by DukeSilver
Member since Jan 2014
2937 posts
Posted on 5/8/16 at 11:41 pm to
quote:

How about this line of dialogue:

Hightower: Our knees do not bend so easily.
Ned: How is Lyana?
Dayne: Struggling, but we swore a vow.

Isn't that much better?




Your ideas and suggestions for changes are always much worse than what you are complaining about.
This post was edited on 5/8/16 at 11:42 pm
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 5/8/16 at 11:41 pm to
Here easy dialogue to fix the scene,

Bran, "That's my father."
Three-Eye, "and the man next to him is Howland Reed, Meera's father. They went searching for your Aunt Lyanna after Robert's Rebellion."
Cue the scream from the tower... Ned looks up and says "Lyanna."

Then you can play out the rest of the dialogue from TOJ.
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