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re: Game of Thrones S6:E3 "Oathbreaker" Bookreader Thread

Posted on 5/8/16 at 11:00 pm to
Posted by 19
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Posted on 5/8/16 at 11:00 pm to
Just watched it again...glutton for punishment, I know...

But Ned grabs one of the twin Dawns and delivers the death blow with it after Dayne drops it.

Hmm.
Posted by CorporateTiger
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Posted on 5/8/16 at 11:01 pm to
Yeah. I have no issues with Reed stabbing Dayne in the back. My problems are with everything else.
Posted by UncleBlazer
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 5/8/16 at 11:02 pm to
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fr33manator


It's funny to see you take the opposite of your stance in TFA threads. Just because someone didn't like the episode/show/movie/whatever doesn't mean they're miserable or trolling. Something you had to remind everyone of in those threads.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
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Posted on 5/8/16 at 11:03 pm to
Melt
Posted by PatDyesPants
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Posted on 5/8/16 at 11:04 pm to
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Why do they have Ned ask where his sister is? Ned knows goddamn well where his sister is. He wasn't out for a leisurely stroll with his hombres.


The average TV viewer needed to know something about the tower.
Posted by Cockopotamus
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Posted on 5/8/16 at 11:05 pm to
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Yeah. I have no issues with Reed stabbing Dayne in the back. My problems are with everything else.



Reed stabbing Dayne in the back is the only thing that they got right.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 5/8/16 at 11:06 pm to
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The average TV viewer needed to know something about the tower.


He didn't need to ask Ser Arthur where she is though, does he? It could have been put more organically.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 5/8/16 at 11:06 pm to
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quote:

Anyone else notice that the 3-eyed raven said he has been entangled in that tree for a 1000 years?


So I guess he's not married to the red titty witch.


So I assume that the show is just dropping the idea that the Three-Eyed Raven is Brynden Blackfyre?
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 5/8/16 at 11:07 pm to
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I just wish they could have made it this insanely epic: LINK


So do I, but there's time constraints, budget constraints, locations, etc.

Hell, the Tower of Joy isn't even round in the show.

It's just a different medium than the books.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 5/8/16 at 11:07 pm to
Episode sucked

Tower of Joy- Good job on D&D making this meaningless. Good wham pow action I guess

Dany- don't give a shite

Mereen- don't give a shite

Wall- solid but because of Dany& Tyrion storylines we get 5 minutes here

King's Landing- same as the wall

Winterfell- fricking retarded. I'm mad at Jon Snow so here's the 12 year old boy I'm supposed to protect
This post was edited on 5/8/16 at 11:08 pm
Posted by Tiger1242
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Posted on 5/8/16 at 11:08 pm to
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Disappointed with the Tower of Joy scene. They made Arthur fricking Dayne a medieval Darth Maul.

How hard would it have been to have a third King's guard like in the books? Then maybe they don't look like jackasses because Dayne can use only one sword

And which fricking sword was Dawn? For a sword that gives the wielder the title "Sword of the Morning" they both looked pathetic. Both those swords looked like he grabbed them off a community rack before heading outside and was sharpening them out of necessity so they could cut through more than a piece of paper.

Why do they have Ned ask where his sister is? Ned knows goddamn well where his sister is. He wasn't out for a leisurely stroll with his hombres.

Why does Bran think Ned beat Dayne one on one? And why has he heard the story a thousand times? Its out of character for Ned to boast and even more out of character for him to leave out the part that he wouldn't have survived if not for Howland Reed.

And then, as if shitting on the scene wasn't enough they cut before the only part that the book readers care about.

frick

eta- and they got the casting backwards. Dayne should have been the blonde dude and Whent (assuming thats who he was) the guy with short hair.


Because frick you that's why. It was nice watching Dayne's overrated arse get stabbed in the back, couldn't even see a frog man coming at him, pssshhhh.
So he had two swords, who cares? George RR Martin's works aren't the gospel, and maybe that IS how it happened and the story told in the books is wrong.

You don't know so stop acting like a bitch.

And Dayne's overrated
Posted by Tiger1242
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Posted on 5/8/16 at 11:09 pm to
How was the TOJ meaningless? You realize that's not the last of that scene we will see?
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 5/8/16 at 11:09 pm to
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And which fricking sword was Dawn?

If one of them is supposed to be Dawn, then it is the one he stabs into the ground and the one that Ned finishes Dayne off with. It had a sun with rays coming out of it on the pommel. But shouldn't it have been a star of some sort if it was Dawn?
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 5/8/16 at 11:10 pm to
Your post is fricking cancer.

GRRM's story-telling around TOJ is so much better than what we got tonight.

"WHERE'S LYANNA?" Oh you fricking rode to the middle of nowhere Dorne because you have no clue where she is?
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 5/8/16 at 11:10 pm to
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He didn't need to ask Ser Arthur where she is though, does he?
Holy shite. What a thing for people to harp on.

It's just a line to inform the viewers that she's in the tower. He looks up, says "where is my sister" and the audience knows she's up there.

More organically? What the frick does that mean?
This post was edited on 5/8/16 at 11:15 pm
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 5/8/16 at 11:10 pm to
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Just because someone didn't like the episode/show/movie/whatever doesn't mean they're miserable or trolling.


No, it doesn't.

It's mostly that you and other ol' piss fans seem to exude this angry bitterness in your posts. Nothing personal. Just an observation.

Posted by UncleBlazer
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 5/8/16 at 11:10 pm to
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So do I, but there's time constraints, budget constraints,


It would have been a shorter and cheaper scene to stick with the book dialogue and not make the fight scene so damn long.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 5/8/16 at 11:11 pm to
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So do I, but there's time constraints, budget constraints, locations, etc.



If that was the case, and I was the director, then I would have cut the fight itself. Just used that choreography budget to hire an extra guy and another minute of dialogue. Have the fight end like in the books with Bran being drenched in blue rose petals, hearing Eddard, and his final words being "I promise Lya".

There's no excuse for how poorly it was executed.
This post was edited on 5/8/16 at 11:12 pm
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
122769 posts
Posted on 5/8/16 at 11:12 pm to
The show has done a putrid job of talking about Howland Reed,
Dayne, etc. If I'm a Hodor all I take away is some guy with Targaryen armor handling Ned and some Northmen. Besides, that battle isn't what was important, it was what they were fighting for.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 5/8/16 at 11:12 pm to
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More organically? What the frick does that mean?



Having a character ask something they already know is bad writing. The dialogue in the book is them taunting each other because Ned already knows what is up. Then you end with "Lyanna in her bed of blood."

Instead the chop up the scene to tease this out. That means that D&D have to throw in much worse dialogue to flesh out the backstory.
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