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re: Game of Thrones S5:E9:"The Dance of Dragons", BOOK READERS
Posted on 6/8/15 at 10:03 am to The Midnight Rider
Posted on 6/8/15 at 10:03 am to The Midnight Rider
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Anyone who is surprised and outraged by Stannis' actions last night simply DOES NOT understand him or Game of Thrones. This IS NOT Lord of the Rings or other fantasy stories where good triumphs evil in clean ways. The "good guys" in this story make hard decisions and huge sacrifices because that's what real life is like. Get with the program, people. Things are only going to continue to get bad before the "end" of the story.
I understand Stannis. Stannis says that he doesn't want the throne and is solely driven by duty. Stannis is full of shite and he only wants power, and will do literally anything to achieve it. He's a hypocrite of the highest order. I had hoped Stannis wouldn't sink so low as to brutally murder his own daughter, but I guess not.
And Stannis is not a GOOD guy. He's firmly cemented himself in the evil category. He's a near evil reflection of Ned Stark. Where as Ned sacrifices his honor for his family, Stannis will not only sacrifice his honor but his humanity for power. Stannis will be left a mere shell and a monster at the end of the series having sacrificed all of his humanity in the process.
He is not Azor Ahai reborn and this is not a Nissa Nissa situation. He just burnt a helpless girl alive who wanted to help her father and then begged for her life in front of him. He may think it is, but what he's done is just plain evil. Nissa Nissa as the legend goes was a bit more willing to die to protect humanity. Shireen clearly didn't know what the hell was going on, and it was an evil act.
I think I'd almost rather see Tyrion be Aerys son than for Stannis to win the Iron Throne in the end.
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Posted on 6/8/15 at 10:04 am to The Midnight Rider
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Thank you, STM! I seriously don't understand how people can be outraged by this kind of stuff at this point. How do y'all not "get it" by now?
I really think it's just about the character and girl that played Shireen that everyone liked. That's why so many people are outraged. Which is fair in a way, but unfair to think of it as such an unthinkable act.
Literally noone even blinked an eye about Trant wanting to bang a 12 year old, because we've never met that girl.
Posted on 6/8/15 at 10:05 am to Dr RC
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god damn mother fricker I accidentally opened this thread instead of the Hodor thread.
the shite on the page before is why we will still need one for future seasons BTW. If we are getting rid of any thread it should be the middle ground, not the Hodor.
there is literally only ONE thing we know that you guys don't/
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Posted on 6/8/15 at 10:06 am to Napoleon
Why would we get rid of the one thread that isn't a total shitfest every week? (Middle ground)
Posted on 6/8/15 at 10:07 am to wildtigercat93
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Literally noone even blinked an eye about Trant wanting to bang a 12 year old, because we've never met that girl.
Well we also know what happens to him as well. He gets his. Stannis has yet to see his day.
Posted on 6/8/15 at 10:07 am to SetTheMood
Stannis' sacrifice of Shireen for favorable weather very closely mirrors Agamemnon's sacrifice of Iphigenia in Greek mythology - for the exact same reason.
Agamemnon's wife, Clytemnestra, eventually murdered Agamemnon as payback for sacrificing their daughter. This happened when Agamemnon returned to Greece from a victorious Trojan War.
I believe that Stannis' days are numbered. He may find victory at Winterfell, but he is damned. Someone close to him or someone with a motive for revenge will kill him.
Melisandre will also find a similar fate, eventually. She resembles in some ways the Greek prophetess Cassandra, who accompanied Agamemnon back to Greece from Troy. Clytemnestra killed her as well. Melisandre will pay for the casual nature of her bloodlust in time.
Which is a shame. Because I love, love, love her sweet titties.
Agamemnon's wife, Clytemnestra, eventually murdered Agamemnon as payback for sacrificing their daughter. This happened when Agamemnon returned to Greece from a victorious Trojan War.
I believe that Stannis' days are numbered. He may find victory at Winterfell, but he is damned. Someone close to him or someone with a motive for revenge will kill him.
Melisandre will also find a similar fate, eventually. She resembles in some ways the Greek prophetess Cassandra, who accompanied Agamemnon back to Greece from Troy. Clytemnestra killed her as well. Melisandre will pay for the casual nature of her bloodlust in time.
Which is a shame. Because I love, love, love her sweet titties.
Posted on 6/8/15 at 10:08 am to Dr RC
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god damn mother fricker I accidentally opened this thread instead of the Hodor thread.
the shite on the page before is why we will still need one for future seasons BTW. If we are getting rid of any thread it should be the middle ground, not the Hodor.
There's literally only 2 events we know that you don't. It's not as if you stumbled across us talking about the Red Wedding 2 years ago.
Posted on 6/8/15 at 10:09 am to SpqrTiger
i read somewhere a story about how GOT is basically a giant ripoff of greek mythology. wouldnt surprise me if all of that is a direct parallel
Posted on 6/8/15 at 10:10 am to SpqrTiger
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I believe that Stannis' days are numbered. He may find victory at Winterfell, but he is damned. Someone close to him or someone with a motive for revenge will kill him.
That's more the thing. I think Stannis lives through the season, and will be in the final one as well. The point is I think Stannis has a fate worse than death in store for him. This action has cemented his damnation.
Posted on 6/8/15 at 10:11 am to Carson123987
GOT is a ripoff of a ton of shite 
GRRM took basically every great story or period and threw them all together masterfully into this incredibly complex story
Romans, Greeks, the Middle Ages, the inquisition, etc etc
GRRM took basically every great story or period and threw them all together masterfully into this incredibly complex story
Romans, Greeks, the Middle Ages, the inquisition, etc etc
Posted on 6/8/15 at 10:11 am to SpqrTiger
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I believe that Stannis' days are numbered. He may find victory at Winterfell, but he is damned. Someone close to him or someone with a motive for revenge will kill him.
And his name shall be Davos Seaworth.
Posted on 6/8/15 at 10:15 am to SetTheMood
I have always thought Mel will be the one to kill stannis
For why or for whom is my question
For why or for whom is my question
Posted on 6/8/15 at 10:16 am to SpqrTiger
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Agamemnon's wife, Clytemnestra, eventually murdered Agamemnon as payback for sacrificing their daughter. This happened when Agamemnon returned to Greece from a victorious Trojan War.
I've been aboard Team frick Selyse for awhile now, but I did enjoy the change where even she realized "wait...wait what? This red bitch is crazy" as the situation dawned on her. My first thought after was related to this quote, that she'll kill Stannis/Mel/both. Or try anyway.
Posted on 6/8/15 at 10:18 am to TaxmanMSU
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I hated The Sparrows in the books..but after seeing what Stannis is capable of I am 100% Team Seven Pointed Star
Maybe we should generally look critically at anyone purporting to be an instrument of a higher power...because they are all assholes?
Posted on 6/8/15 at 10:21 am to Putty
What went down in Dorne was the worst part of the episode imo. It makes no sense for Doran to send his only heir to KL with nothing in return.
Posted on 6/8/15 at 10:22 am to Korin
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It makes no sense for Doran to send his only heir to KL with nothing in return.
his heir would be on the small council...so he would now have an inside to Kings Landing
Posted on 6/8/15 at 10:25 am to TaxmanMSU
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New Crackpot Theory: The church learns about the wildlings settling in The Gift. They send envoys up there, the wildings find religion (or a new one) in the Seven.
I love seeing different theories. Personally, I think it would be out of character for the wildlings to convert in large numbers. Who knows, though? Nothing would shock me at this point.
Posted on 6/8/15 at 10:28 am to wildtigercat93
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I have always thought Mel will be the one to kill stannis
I'm going with Jon Snow. Remember in the House of the Undying Dany saw a prophesy of a blue eyed king who carries a red sword and casts no shadow. I just really have to think Stannis will become the new Night's King. I also think Night's King Stannis will kill Dany.
Posted on 6/8/15 at 10:31 am to OMLandshark
Some of y'all's overreactions are ridiculous.
Posted on 6/8/15 at 10:32 am to supatigah
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His men are freezing to death, starving to death and abandoning him daily. By sacrificing his daughter, a desperate man made a desperate play. I am sure in his mind it was less about sacrificing her for power and more about trying to save a lot of his soldiers by letting the witch have her way to appease the God of Light
This is the way I interpreted the scene too. Stannis is still scum in my eyes for doing it, but I really do think he loved his daughter and that is why her sacrifice shows the level of commitment he has to his cause. It was a completely desperate act. He truly believes he has a destiny he must fulfill and fate has already determined that everyone around him is just a tool to get him to the throne, therefore he is justified in any action he takes.
I am still rooting for Stannis to beat the Boltons, but I also want Stannis dead and defeated too. Maybe LF does the job and then gets doublecrossed by Sansa. Bottom line is the Starks are the only loyal, just, "good" family in the North and we want them to win. I also kind of like the people in Dorne. The story there sucks but the House there seems to have some sort of honor, like the Starks, and aren't repulsive like the rest of the Houses in Westeros.
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