re: Game of Thrones S5:E9:"The Dance of Dragons", BOOK READERS

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I understand Stannis. Stannis says that he doesn't want the throne and is solely driven by duty. Stannis is full of shite and he only wants power, and will do literally anything to achieve it. He's a hypocrite of the highest order. I had hoped Stannis wouldn't sink so low as to brutally murder his own daughter, but I guess not.

And Stannis is not a GOOD guy. He's firmly cemented himself in the evil category. He's a near evil reflection of Ned Stark. Where as Ned sacrifices his honor for his family, Stannis will not only sacrifice his honor but his humanity for power. Stannis will be left a mere shell and a monster at the end of the series having sacrificed all of his humanity in the process.

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Well see, here's the only thing that made me go a little nuts at that scene: not five episodes ago he comforted his daughter by saying he told everyone who had told him to send her away to jump off a cliff and saved her life through any means necessary because she was his daughter. It was a touching moment and it showed Stannis was a real human being, not some automaton driven by blind "duty" and "honor." Or, in your opinion, blind ambition.

But in this episode, he basically just sends her to her death without much thought. It didn't ring true to me.

He stared wild eyed at the spectacle, but there was no real emotional reaction to his daughter's death, so it appeared to be a step back in his character to me. His wife, on the other hand, who has appeared to be so cold and distant to her daughter and so dedicated to the "Lord of Light," lost it. This just seemed backwards to me.

I would like to see him crack in the next episode(s). There needs to be a consequence for that.

Similarly, there needs to be a consequence for Ramsay's relationship with Sansa. I kept hoping she'd find her backbone. She did a little, but it failed miserably.

I'm getting weary of the shite that keeps getting heaped onto the characters. I understand "realism," but for frick's sake, this is fantasy. At some point, the catharsis needs to come in and the pay off needs to be huge to make up for all the hell these characters have gone through. Otherwise it's just a slog through more and more shite.

He'll hopefully be back in the finale putting arrows through Kevan and Pycelle (and maybe even Tommen since he's a lot older on the show).

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next week we can be going into the next season with:
Snow- dead
Arya - blind
Sansa - who the frick knows
Cersei- trial with frankengreggor so basically back in power

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I know. It's going to piss off a lot of people. But even I'm getting tired of it and I've read the damn books.

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next week we can be going into the next season with:
Snow- dead
Arya - blind
Sansa - who the frick knows
Cersei- trial with frankengreggor so basically back in power

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I think it'll be:

Snow - assumed dead (it was never confirmed in the last book)
Arya - possibly kicked out of the Faceless Assassins guild (I think they skip her getting blinded to fast forward her stoyline)
Sansa - escaped from Winterfell and going on a Bolton/Frey hunt
Cersei - naked penance walk with massive CGI effects to cover Lena's tat covered body.

Trystane is being combined Quentyn I think. He will be in Kings Landing in a position of power just waiting for Dany to make the crossing or possibly Varys to kill off anyone in the way of a Targaryen taking the throne again.

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Well see, here's the only thing that made me go a little nuts at that scene: not five episodes ago he comforted his daughter by saying he told everyone who had told him to send her away to jump off a cliff and saved her life through any means necessary because she was his daughter. It was a touching moment and it showed Stannis was a real human being, not some automaton driven by blind "duty" and "honor." Or, in your opinion, blind ambition. But in this episode, he basically just sends her to her death without much thought. It didn't ring true to me. He stared wild eyed at the spectacle, but there was no real emotional reaction to his daughter's death, so it appeared to be a step back in his character to me. His wife, on the other hand, who has appeared to be so cold and distant to her daughter and so dedicated to the "Lord of Light," lost it. This just seemed backwards to me. I would like to see him crack in the next episode(s). There needs to be a consequence for that.

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Yeah, actually him going stone cold and his wife losing it made sense to me. Sure, she was all for the sacrifice, but at the moment when it all got real she cracked and wanted Shireen saved. Stannis, who I think truly loved Shireen, didn't crack, but you could feel it was tearing him up nternally, to have to sacrifice his daughter for the cause. His commitment level to his destiny is that strong.

Our moral compass in modern day America is just different than the ficitional world of Westeros. In that world love is a luxury, probably non-existant. Arranaged marriages, weird religious rituals, cruelty to men, women, and children is just the norm.

Will the Titty Snake seduce Bronn into maiming Myrcella?

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Thank you, STM! I seriously don't understand how people can be outraged by this kind of stuff at this point. How do y'all not "get it" by now?

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-Midnight Rider

To be honest, I'd worry about myself if I was NOT outraged by watching someone burn their innocent 11 year old daughter. Not surprised but definitely pissed off about it.

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Literally noone even blinked an eye about Trant wanting to bang a 12 year old, because we've never met that girl.

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- wildtigercat93

That's not true at all. I've seen numerous people on the internet decrying it. I think the majority of decent people "blinked an eye" about that.

So why didn't Red convince Stannis to burn Aemon? King's blood, Dragon blood no less.

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I have a feeling Trystane never makes it to Kings Landing. I think the Sand Snakes kill him before he ever arrives. They'll probably do it as retaliation to Doran making their mother kiss his ring, or something goofy like that.

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Or maybe Bronn will do it?