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re: Game of Thrones S5:E9:"The Dance of Dragons", BOOK READERS

Posted on 6/7/15 at 11:12 pm to
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
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Posted on 6/7/15 at 11:12 pm to
Semantics

They kill the living to create the army of the dead
Posted by Finkle is Einhorn
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 6/7/15 at 11:13 pm to


I'm just fricking with you.

"The Others are not dead. They are strange, beautiful… think, oh… the Sidhe made of ice, something like that… a different sort of life… inhuman, elegant, dangerous.."
This post was edited on 6/7/15 at 11:19 pm
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 6/7/15 at 11:13 pm to
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Drogon was getting stuck like a pig and Dany take a minute and a half to climb the poor beast.

I was actually starting to feel sorry for him getting skewered like that. How did all of the seven kingdoms not kill at least one of the dragons from the original Targ invasion? Hell, it only took a few dozen masked rich pricks to figure out spears could penetrate his scales.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 6/7/15 at 11:14 pm to
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Sams dad told him he would kill him rather than let him be his heir. ...there was no greater good behind it. Just, "i dont want fat grandkids "



To be honest, if Sam was Ned's eldest, he too would not allow him to inherit Winterfell. Granted, Ned would have been more kind and let him go to the Citadel, but the Boltons, the Karstarks, and the Dustins would have eaten Sam alive if he were to be the Lord of Winterfell. Sam is good for counsel, but not leadership. His father instead should have sat him down and told him he needed him to go to the Citadel so Dickon could inherit. Randyll is sadly right that Sam could not be allowed to inherit Horn Hill, he just went through highly cruel means of ensuring it.
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 6/7/15 at 11:14 pm to
Stannis is still worse. What Craster did was more for survival whereas Stannis's motives were purely for glory.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 6/7/15 at 11:15 pm to
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He's pretty much a bad guy now.


Pretty much? Ramsay is now a charmer and a hero compared to him.
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 6/7/15 at 11:16 pm to
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What Craster did was more for survival whereas Stannis's motives were purely for glory.

That, and he wanted to continue to screw his daughters.
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 6/7/15 at 11:17 pm to
Drogon is still young. The dragons from Aegon's conquest were much older
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 6/7/15 at 11:17 pm to
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Sexing up his daughters against their will, and then sacrificing his male new borns to the the White Walkers.



It's just the relationship between Stannis and his daughter that particularly irks me. Craster and his children clearly never had that. Stannis sacrificed his daughter that he claims to love brutally just for power. I really don't think Tywin would do it if he was in the same situation with Tyrion. That's how atrocious I think Stannis has become.
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 6/7/15 at 11:21 pm to
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It's just the relationship between Stannis and his daughter that particularly irks me. Craster and his children clearly never had that.


If Shireen had been an anonymous character like Craster's kids you wouldn't care about her either. That is the game the D&D are playing with you and the rest of the audience.

Tywin was going to let Tyrion be executed BTW.
This post was edited on 6/7/15 at 11:23 pm
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 6/7/15 at 11:21 pm to
So we are all officially off the Stannis the Mannis bandwagon?

And great episode.

I guess this means Hizdahr is not the Harpy?

And was hoping so much that Daario would take a sword in the arse.
Posted by KorrBG20
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 6/7/15 at 11:21 pm to
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Show is getting silly. It's like shitty fan fiction at this point.


I agree. You clearly see the difference in writing when they go straight off the source material and when they do things on their own.

They are starting to rely too much on action. The battle in the pits was kind of disappointing to me because it's become like a video game. Someone said in the other thread that it was the arena scene in Star Wars Ep II. The Sons of the Harpy and their stupid masks are so cartoonish that it's laughable. Of course, Drogon comes just in the nick of time to save the day. And why do the unsullied suck all of a sudden?

Death has become like a joke all of a sudden. The cost of life is like a crappy video game. Despite what the show thinks, it is actually a pretty difficult feat to fight and kill three grown men at once, yet characters like Daario do it in seconds with no problem.

I'm just starting to hate the laughable summer movie shite that Game of Thrones has become. I want a smart, complex story with unexpected twists and plot developments that you can analyze. Now all we get is this video game crap.
This post was edited on 6/7/15 at 11:24 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 6/7/15 at 11:23 pm to
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If Shireen had been an anonymous character like Craster's kids you wouldn't care about her either. That is the game the D&D are playing with you and the rest of the audience.



What is that supposed to mean? Yes I am attached to Shireen as a character, but that's besides the point. The point is Stannis burns his own daughter alive in the name of a superstition he hardly believes in, if at all, all in the name of glory. You could have brought her out there the first time, and I think knowing that he said he loved her that I would be just about as equally outraged by this.
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 6/7/15 at 11:24 pm to
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I guess this means Hizdahr is not the Harpy?

I didn't see him die.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
52297 posts
Posted on 6/7/15 at 11:25 pm to
Just finished it.

First Jorah



Stannis



Drogon



Tyrion's reaction to Drogon be like

Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74290 posts
Posted on 6/7/15 at 11:25 pm to
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The spears to just bounce off?


yeah. I would expect dragon scales to be hard as steel.

If they could be pierced it seems that three wouldn't be able to take over the world.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74290 posts
Posted on 6/7/15 at 11:26 pm to
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. Also, the Unsullied are severely misrepresented in the show.


The first time they showed them I thought they were really small for eunichs and the best warriors in the world.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 6/7/15 at 11:28 pm to
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Tywin was going to let Tyrion be executed BTW.



Legally, yes. But he wanted to send him to the Wall first and foremost. And even after all that, he was going to give him a clean death. If Tywin was capable of burning Tyrion alive simply for power and glory, he would have smothered him with a pillow decades before. He hated Tyrion, but I think Tywin thought of the act of murdering his own son as monstrous and didn't even consider even the most gentle ways of murdering him.

If Tyrion dies on his watch, Tywin doesn't care. But being brutally murdered by being lit of fire? Tywin knows Tyrion deserves more than that. If Tywin was capable of lighting his own son on fire, Tyrion would have been dead long before the events of the novels.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 6/7/15 at 11:30 pm to
I'm not sure why anyone is shocked that Stannis would sink so low. He already murdered his own brother with Melisandre's smoke vag monster. He treats Davos like complete shite even though the dude is probably his most loyal supporter.
This post was edited on 6/7/15 at 11:34 pm
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 6/7/15 at 11:31 pm to
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Shireen change sucks and takes away pretty much the only redeeming quality of Stannis.


How do you know it is a change? In the extra stuff they do at the end of each episode, D&D said "when George first told us about it." As in, the show just spoiled the books, and GRRM wrote that.
This post was edited on 6/7/15 at 11:32 pm
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