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Posted on 5/19/15 at 2:17 pm to Carson123987
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Roose is going to kill him. Book it
Yep. Theon will eventually snap on Ramsay and escape with Sansa. Roose either sends him into an ambush against Stannis or kills him like he did Robb.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 2:18 pm to Bamatab
quote:gtfo. you worse than the duke lacrosse accuser
If she didn't want it to happen, it was rape. She excepted it would happen before she ever got married. But just because someone doesn't fight it, doesn't mean she wanted it.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 2:18 pm to KingSlayer
Bran will get his legs back and deliver some sweet chin music only for Arya to follow it up with Needle to the throat
This post was edited on 5/19/15 at 3:17 pm
Posted on 5/19/15 at 2:18 pm to Bamatab
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She excepted it would happen before she ever got married.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 2:19 pm to Korin
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Roose is going to kill him. Book it
Probably.
Ramsay kills the fat wife's baby boy (only REAL son of Roose) and Roose kills Ramsay
Posted on 5/19/15 at 2:21 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
Dany. Because that would mean she has finally gotten to Westeros and done something.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 2:23 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
Given he likes to hunt people down with dogs, would be nice to see Ghost maul him to death.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 2:24 pm to Korin
quote:Possible, but I don't see Sansa running away from Winterfell. That whole, "light a candle and we have your back" coupled with Brienne leads me to believe Sansa is about to do big things. Then again, it could all just be filler.
Theon will eventually snap on Ramsay and escape with Sansa.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 2:27 pm to Fun Bunch
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Arya. Because that would mean she has finally gotten back to Westeros
Posted on 5/19/15 at 2:28 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
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Why are so many calling that "rape"
It was on her wedding night, she did NOT say "no" or try to fight it. It was unpleasant sex for her. It was degrading for her. But, it was in no way..."rape".
I guess our definitions of rape are different. To me, rape is nonconsensual sex. A husband can rape a wife. Yes, it was her wedding night, but that doesn't change the fact that she didn't want to have sex with him. Thus, it was a rape.
If I walked up to a random woman, and said I will kill you and your family if you don't bend over and take it, and she bends over and takes it, that's a rape.
How can you honestly argue that that wasn't a rape?!
Posted on 5/19/15 at 2:29 pm to KillerNut9
quote:what?
sweet chink music
And how did OP's alter get approved? That's not even a good try.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 2:30 pm to SetTheMood
quote:she bent over an offered it, that is a consensual maneuver.
To me, rape is nonconsensual sex
quote:he didn't threaten her
If I walked up to a random woman, and said I will kill you and your family if you don't bend over and take it, and she bends over and takes it, that's a rape.
quote:she knew it was going to happen when she agreed to go along with LF's plan. she didn't resist and in fact offered it up. not rape
How can you honestly argue that that wasn't a rape?!
Posted on 5/19/15 at 2:36 pm to Fearthehat0307
why do folks feel sorry for theon? ...
Posted on 5/19/15 at 2:37 pm to tiderider
quote:probably the same people who think sansa was raped.
why do folks feel sorry for theon? ...
Posted on 5/19/15 at 2:38 pm to tiderider
You could probably get convicted of rape in some places in the USA for it. In Westeros they would probably just kill the accuser and wizz on the dead body for that shite.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 2:38 pm to SetTheMood
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Sansa has been abused at every turn. Let that rape scene be the cathartic moment that steels her resolve to begin playing the game, which will ultimately end with her manipulating Ramsay's, and the rest of the Bolton's, including fat Walda's, deaths. Either that or kill her off. I'm tired of seeing her be abused for 5 seasons. Time for something to happen there
I feel the same way and that's what I think is going to happen. Sansa just about got some swagger when she punked Ramsey's side piece, but that was quickly dissolved by the rape. I think this changes her into, basically, Cersei-esque of the north.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 2:38 pm to SetTheMood
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I guess our definitions of rape are different.
Not really
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To me, rape is nonconsensual sex
I agree
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A husband can rape a wife.
Correct
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Yes, it was her wedding night, but that doesn't change the fact that she didn't want to have sex with him.
Here's where it fall apart. Where are you getting your "fact that she didn't want to have sex with him"? She never said no. Not once. And she was in in the middle of disrobing to consummate the marriage when he ripped her dress, bent her over, and consummated the marriage.
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If I walked up to a random woman, and said I will kill you and your family if you don't bend over and take it, and she bends over and takes it, that's a rape.
But, that's not what Ramsey did. At all.
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How can you honestly argue that that wasn't a rape?!
Because it wasn't.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 2:38 pm to Fearthehat0307
This is my last post on the subject in this thread because I don't want to hijack the thread.
She was told to bend over, she didn't offer to bend over.
DFAQ? His whole psych game was a threat. His dog kennel sex toy had already told her about him send dogs after girls that "bore" him. If she hadn't bent over the bed when he told her, her end would not have been pleasant.
Agreed. And legally speaking, it wasn't rape since she didn't say no. But she definitely didn't want it, or she wouldn't be whimpering like a beaten yard dog when she bent over the bed. So from a moral and ethical viewpoint, I would consider that rape (not from a legal viewpoint).
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she bent over an offered it, that is a consensual maneuver.
She was told to bend over, she didn't offer to bend over.
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he didn't threaten her
DFAQ? His whole psych game was a threat. His dog kennel sex toy had already told her about him send dogs after girls that "bore" him. If she hadn't bent over the bed when he told her, her end would not have been pleasant.
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she knew it was going to happen when she agreed to go along with LF's plan.
Agreed. And legally speaking, it wasn't rape since she didn't say no. But she definitely didn't want it, or she wouldn't be whimpering like a beaten yard dog when she bent over the bed. So from a moral and ethical viewpoint, I would consider that rape (not from a legal viewpoint).
This post was edited on 5/19/15 at 2:40 pm
Posted on 5/19/15 at 2:38 pm to Fearthehat0307
She did not willingly bend over, he pushed her down
And he did threaten her
And he did threaten her
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