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re: Episode IX is the lame duck in Disney's Star Wars saga (Forbes)
Posted on 2/6/19 at 4:19 pm to DelU249
Posted on 2/6/19 at 4:19 pm to DelU249
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i'm starting to pick up on something. maybe, just maybe...treating your audience like shite is a bad idea.
It's like entertainment companies thought they could behave like utilities, ISPs, universities, government offices, or cable companies and that we would take any and all abuse up the tailpipe like we have no other options.
This post was edited on 2/6/19 at 4:40 pm
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Posted on 2/6/19 at 4:22 pm to kingbob
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Let's compare the relative sizes of the two ships, though:
Resistance cruiser was roughly 3,440m long, 700m wide, and 460m tall, for a rough volume of 1.1 km^3.
I mean, that could still take out Starkiller Base and the Death Star’s basic functions at worst. Just aim them where the laser is. Abrams accidentally also established that you can go through shields at hyperdrive never imagining the stupidity of Rian Johnson, so it’s all fricked.
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That means that an object traveling at hyper-speed would have to be at least 1/3000 the size of the object it's hitting to significantly damage it. The first Death Star was roughly 160km wide, which calculates out to a volume of 2,144,660.5 km^3.
Not hard to find one of those in space. Just get an asteroid, attach a hyperdrive to it, and then vrrrooooommmmm! Enemy destroyed.
Posted on 2/6/19 at 4:26 pm to OMLandshark
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Not hard to find one of those in space. Just get an asteroid, attach a hyperdrive to it, and then vrrrooooommmmm! Enemy destroyed.
I think the issue is finding enough fuel to get it going that fast. The whole plot of Solo is that due to war and instability, fuel for ships was a scarce and expensive commodity controlled by organized crime with the Empire hoarding the bulk of the supply to run their military. Perhaps the issue is that the Resistance simply could never supply themselves with enough fuel to power a massive hyperdrive asteroid into something. Then again, how could the Empire power the Death Star? Who knows? Rian Johnson really opened up a can of worms.
Posted on 2/6/19 at 4:29 pm to kingbob
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I think the issue is finding enough fuel to get it going that fast.
Fuel was never a problem before Rian Johnson. For frick’s sake, we have aircraft carriers today that can last on the sea for like a decade without going back to port to refuel. I mean what, do they hunt down space whales now for fuel?
Posted on 2/6/19 at 4:30 pm to kingbob
Neither the original trilogy nor the prequel trilogy introduced the concept of the ships needing a steady source of fuel.
Ironically, they seem to have stolen that plot point from Spaceballs.
Ironically, they seem to have stolen that plot point from Spaceballs.
Posted on 2/6/19 at 4:34 pm to Walking the Earth
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Neither the original trilogy nor the prequel trilogy introduced the concept of the ships needing a steady source of fuel.
Ironically, they seem to have stolen that plot point from Spaceballs.
When will then be now?
Soon...
Posted on 2/6/19 at 4:35 pm to kingbob
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Posted on 2/6/19 at 6:46 pm to tiggerthetooth
quote:Wrong. If any of them were really good, they'd crush the all-time box office records.
I imagine whatever they do is going to upset or displease 50% of the fans anyway
But Disney people only know formulas, international and demographic marketing posing as SJW bullshite and of course, child molesting.
quote:She thinks she's a badass because, despite a superhuman effort, she was unable to frick up an unfrickupabble brand.
Kathleen Kennedy even said in an interview she felt no obligation to cater to the regular fans
quote:If this is true, they shouldn't have bought the Star Wars name at all. Just make a new universe and call Jedis something else.
Because Disney wants them gone.
Posted on 2/6/19 at 6:57 pm to OMLandshark
Let's not forget that Yoda could have just fricking killed every villain and destroyed all of their weapons from beyond the grave, but apparently saved this skill for burning down the original jedi force tree or some shite
It's just so bad
It's just so bad
Posted on 2/6/19 at 6:59 pm to JuiceTerry
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Posted on 2/6/19 at 7:03 pm to tiggerthetooth
As shitty as The Last Jedi was, it could’ve been salvaged in post-production editing after Carrie Fisher died. Princess Leia dies in space and Luke, after projecting himself, doesn’t die as he stares into the sunset. We’d all be somewhat hopeful for the last installment being a showdown between Luke and Kylo.
It’s beyond me how Disney, which is full of highly paid and educated people, went forward with this new trilogy without some sort of coherent plan. It’s mindboggling.
It’s beyond me how Disney, which is full of highly paid and educated people, went forward with this new trilogy without some sort of coherent plan. It’s mindboggling.
Posted on 2/6/19 at 9:03 pm to tiggerthetooth
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God I would shite my pants if Disney had the balls to remake VIII. I dont think they have the balls though.
Unfortunately there are enough people out there who want so desperately for TLJ to be a good movie, they'll defend it to their graves. Disney can sit back and say "See, these people get it. Its a great movie, and we'll just do more of the same. "
Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:16 pm to Walking the Earth
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Neither the original trilogy nor the prequel trilogy introduced the concept of the ships needing a steady source of fuel.
Obi-Wan has his ship refueled in Episode III
Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:36 pm to Parmen
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Obi-Wan has his ship refueled in Episode III
Theres also a clone wars episode that involves a ship getting refueled.
Posted on 2/7/19 at 8:12 am to tiggerthetooth
From what I've seen so far I don't have much faith that they can do anything good with it. I enjoyed TFA when it came out. But I hated TLJ so much it made me like TFA less. I did rather enjoy Rogue One though. They just need to keep their SJW shite out of it and make some good movies with less forced, crappy humor.
Posted on 2/7/19 at 8:23 am to FairhopeTider
quote:And you know they all sit at a table and discuss plot and the direction the story moves. This is where they do fine tuning to the script. It's a think tank, for God's sake! I'm with you. How does the idea of the story get passed through multiple people where they were all in agreement that it was a good story? I envision them sitting at a conference table, everybody playing on their phone, with one guy pitching the idea and the rest (not paying attention) say, "yeah, that'll work." Kind of like Flo's sister in the Progressive commercial.
It’s beyond me how Disney, which is full of highly paid and educated people, went forward with this new trilogy without some sort of coherent plan. It’s mindboggling.
Posted on 2/7/19 at 8:48 am to Das Jackal
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From what I've seen so far I don't have much faith that they can do anything good with it. I enjoyed TFA when it came out. But I hated TLJ so much it made me like TFA less. I did rather enjoy Rogue One though. They just need to keep their SJW shite out of it and make some good movies with less forced, crappy humor.
It spoils TFA in that you realize there's so many plot hooks the writers had no idea how they were ever going to resolve.
Posted on 2/7/19 at 9:13 am to BulldogXero
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It spoils TFA in that you realize there's so many plot hooks the writers had no idea how they were ever going to resolve.
JJ had a first draft, but Rian Johnson in effort to spite the fans did the exact opposite of it.
Posted on 2/7/19 at 10:32 am to tiggerthetooth
quote:At one time Lucas had total control and final approval of all EU publications. Don't know if that changed at any point but I vividly recall this being the case. Nothing was created in the Star Wars universe without his express approval. One of the reasons why every novel published contained a timeline of the original trilogy and where a specific novel/story fit into the timeline.
Did George Lucas acknowledge any of the EU as canon
This post was edited on 2/7/19 at 10:48 am
Posted on 2/7/19 at 11:08 am to RealityTiger
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And you know they all sit at a table and discuss plot and the direction the story moves. This is where they do fine tuning to the script. It's a think tank, for God's sake! I'm with you. How does the idea of the story get passed through multiple people where they were all in agreement that it was a good story? I envision them sitting at a conference table, everybody playing on their phone, with one guy pitching the idea and the rest (not paying attention) say, "yeah, that'll work." Kind of like Flo's sister in the Progressive commercial.
That's corporate America for you.
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