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re: Disney's About To Take Yet Another Multi-Million Dollar Loss With Snow White

Posted on 3/24/25 at 4:41 pm to
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62600 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 4:41 pm to
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Saw it in theaters and don’t remember the plot. Wasn’t it the same story but they added human sidekicks?


Pretty fair assessment honestly. First one had better music and the plot wasn't done great in this one.

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I didn’t get the batlady or why she was there.


They didn't even use her really. Made no sense, and her scenes weren't nearly as entertaining as the giant crab scenes in the first one.

There is usually a drop off with a sequel, but this was like a nosedive off a cliff.
This post was edited on 3/24/25 at 4:42 pm
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
22002 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 5:58 pm to
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Not to mention, one of them is TulaneLSU. That is like believing an el Gaucho post is real.

He did get banned for a couple years for some anti-white people posts in a gun thread, so
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
48737 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 6:56 pm to
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76% of the reviews gave it 1 star. At least half of those people didn't even watch it.



Thanks for the reminder. I need to get over there and register my 1 star rating.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
42340 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 7:31 pm to
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76% of the reviews gave it 1 star. At least half of those people didn't even watch it.


Where are you getting that data that they didn't see it?

Here's one who DID watch it.

Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
9536 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 6:56 pm to
Variety has done a postmortem on the flick, and they’re brutally upfront about how bad things are:

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Now that the film’s dismal opening weekend — $87 million worldwide — is in the rearview mirror, Burbank brass are evaluating what went wrong. To put “Snow White’s” global box office haul into perspective, it’s about $34 million less than Warner Bros.’ “Joker: Folie à Deux” in October but with a bigger budget by $70 million.


Le Ouch.

Theres a lot in there about how Ziegler basically had handlers forced on her by Disney, and how Disney had to hire extra security for Gal Gadot after Ziegler’s Israel comments because of all the death threats.

Variety: Inside Disney’s Snow White Fiasco

Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
42340 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 9:17 pm to
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Burbank brass


I would say the Disney executives in charge of this should be summarily dismissed, but they were just following orders. BlackRock, to be specific.

Global , modern audience
Race swapping.
No respect for source material…

Disney have been in a desperate move to dismantle their past so that they can, in their own eyes, reimagine for a modern time.

Only that’s not what has made Disney great.

The ties which bind traditional family values together have been tougher to cut and sever than they planned. All the They/Them affirming & attempts to erase the nuclear family have failed - Bigly.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103122 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 9:25 pm to
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Imagine all the hair from not shaving.


There’s an old MAD comic by Don Martin playing with this.

Guy climbs up the tower only to find she has her hair up and he had been climbing her armpit hair.
Posted by HueyLongJr
Member since Oct 2007
916 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 10:21 pm to
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I would say the Disney executives in charge of this should be summarily dismissed, but they were just following orders. BlackRock, to be specific.


With all due respect, you are a fricking moron. The idea that BlackRock is telling Disney what movies to make is flat-earth level bullshite.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
42340 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 10:27 pm to
Then Disney is doing all this on their own?

Great.




Why are you so fricking pissed off?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66235 posts
Posted on 3/25/25 at 11:11 pm to
They’re all angry and miserable
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
141437 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 1:09 am to
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Snow White cost 270 million. Will make 300+ million in theaters.


that is the production costs. need to toss in another 230 million or so for marketing and promotion.

Disney will lose their shorts on this movie.

ETA -- If it does make 300 million in theaters (it won't), Disney only gets about 1/2 of that. Theaters get the other 1/2.

I
This post was edited on 4/7/25 at 1:33 am
Posted by MasterKnight
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2016
2313 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 1:46 am to
Disney is going to lose money but you are just throwing numbers around like you know what you are talking about. The movie theaters do not receive "50%". It is based on the contracts and terms and usually weighted. It is heavy for the studio in the first 2 weeks. That is why you cant use a free ticket for a new movie within the first 2 weeks.

The longer it goes, the higher percentage the movie theater will receive. Movies now do not last long in the theater. They go to streaming within 45 days. No way would Disney have a contract on this movie they know to be crap where they are not taking as much box office sales as possible.

Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94749 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 4:04 am to
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The movie theaters do not receive "50%".


Of course they don't literally make 50%.

But that is a really good rule of thumb to apply to the worldwide gross to determine how much the studio makes. You should estimate slightly above that if it does better domestically than internationally, slightly downward if it does better internationally.

Regardless, Disney is losing upwards of $225m on this stinker, maybe closer to $300m. And the acute monetary loss doesn't fully account for the continued damage to the brand.

I do think Lilo and Stitch will fare better and maybe become the big hit they need it to be.
This post was edited on 4/7/25 at 4:06 am
Posted by P-Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
2007 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 5:50 am to
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The idea that BlackRock is telling Disney what movies to make is flat-earth level bullshite.


I doubt BlackRock has someone in the room what to do, but they do invest/finance based on ESG scores. What do you think Larry Fink meant when he said "Behaviors are gonna have to change and this is one thing were asking companies. You have to force behaviors, and at BlackRock we are forcing behaviors"?

Saying BlackRock, a company with its hands in virtually every market, has no role in corporate decisions is either willfully ignorant or obtuse.
Posted by P-Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
2007 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:17 am to
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Guy climbs up the tower only to find she has her hair up and he had been climbing her armpit hair.


Disney’s ‘Tangled’ Live-Action Movie on Hold Indefinitely
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20325 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:58 am to
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Inb4 Corinthians shows up to post an opposing view to this. She is incapable of simply saying, “yea, they fricked this whole thing up”.

Because if it fits someone’s ideology they will support it theoretically even if they don’t support it by going to see it.
Posted by HueyLongJr
Member since Oct 2007
916 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 11:29 am to
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Saying BlackRock, a company with its hands in virtually every market, has no role in corporate decisions is either willfully ignorant or obtuse.


That's not how any of this works. BLK proxy voting

Fink's comments you referred to were typical bullshite and they have run from the ESG nonsense as soon as they started losing clients. FWIW, Disney is a client of BlackRock, meaning BlackRock gets revenues from Disney. They not likely to boss around Disney.
This post was edited on 4/7/25 at 11:30 am
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
22002 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 11:49 am to
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The movie theaters do not receive "50%"

Yes they do, on average. International theaters take a larger percentage than 50 as well so it evens out.

It’s a good rule of thumb

For the downvotes we can pull out the financial statements of the regals etc and prove it if you want
This post was edited on 4/7/25 at 11:59 am
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
27134 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 11:58 am to
Any truth to the rumor that Minecraft did twice as much in 3 days as Snow Off-White did in 3 weeks?
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
25630 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 12:51 pm to
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Disney have been in a desperate move to dismantle their past so that they can, in their own eyes, reimagine for a modern time.



And not just their movies. They've been doing that shite in the parks for a few years now.
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