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Posted on 5/26/26 at 4:43 am to TygerTyger
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Steve Carrell is a loyal, loving, hard working husband who is a complete victim in the story. His wife is a typical spoiled, entitled, middle class white woman whore who gets bored with her great life and seeks out some Lindenhagen dick. frick her. And frick the writers for not making her the villain that she most certainly is. Hell, David Lindenhagen gets punched in the nose for fricking her, but he didn't force himself on her. She offered and he accepted.
She is the villain of the film but because she’s so relatable to half the audience is treated with forgiveness and understanding.
Likewise Steve Carrell’s character is an incredibly well written American male “good guy” archetype who does all the “right” things asked of a modern man and becomes completely invisible to his wife as a result.
He is in effect exactly what men are socialized now to be: passive and supportive to the point of becoming feminine. In reality that’s what is required for a successful healthy family unit if the woman is going to work and be unavailable at times to her children from a nurturing standpoint as a result.
But by setting aside his masculinity for his children he dooms his marriage because no woman is attracted to a non masculine man.
Enter Ryan Goslings character to remind men what women seek from a desire standpoint: top 10% looks, masculine distance, success and absolute confidence.
I actually think it should be required viewing for all young men. It’s one of the most effective if possibly unintentional takedowns of modern American feminist culture I’ve seen in film IMO.
Posted on 5/26/26 at 7:23 am to tide06
Well said.
Posted on 5/26/26 at 9:10 am to TygerTyger
The movie suffers greatly from choosing a poor name. I think it would have had a much wider audience with a name that was far less chick flicky. It just makes you think of like Eat, Pray, Love when you hear it, but the movie is far from a chick flick like that.
I think I saw an interview with Carell that at one point the name was going to be like The Wingman or something like that. Movie would have been viewed much more along the lines of a comedy/romantic comedy than chick flick that people think it is that haven't seen it. Really good movie though and worth anyone checking out.
I think I saw an interview with Carell that at one point the name was going to be like The Wingman or something like that. Movie would have been viewed much more along the lines of a comedy/romantic comedy than chick flick that people think it is that haven't seen it. Really good movie though and worth anyone checking out.
This post was edited on 5/26/26 at 9:13 am
Posted on 5/26/26 at 9:16 am to Napoleon
quote:Howard Hughes over here.
Watched this on a plane the other day.
Posted on 5/26/26 at 3:10 pm to elprez00
Can't believe no one has mentioned how incredibly sexy Marissa Tomei is in this one
Posted on 5/26/26 at 4:49 pm to tide06
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tide06
That’s a solid take on the movie for sure, and I agree with pretty much all of it.
Except this:
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Enter Ryan Goslings character to remind men what women seek from a desire standpoint: top 10% looks, masculine distance, success and absolute confidence.
No homo, but calling Gosling “top 10%” is almost insulting. I love chicks, but can admit he’s a good looking dude in CSL.
What’s funny is that he settles for Emma Stone, who is marginally attractive and sort of annoying throughout the movie.
Posted on 5/26/26 at 4:53 pm to CocomoLSU
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No homo, but calling Gosling “top 10%” is almost insulting. I love chicks, but can admit he’s a good looking dude in CSL.
No absolutely he’s a top .1% guy, should’ve been more clear.
I just meant all women only think ~10% of men are actually hot and that’s what they want obviously whereas men are much more objective about their own looks and willing to date a woman who’s a 4 if they’re a 4 if that makes sense.
Posted on 5/26/26 at 4:55 pm to slinger1317
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Can't believe no one has mentioned how incredibly sexy Marissa Tomei is in this one
Yep, mother nature was really really good to her, that's for sure
Posted on 5/26/26 at 6:22 pm to tide06
The kid in that movie is annoying
Posted on 5/26/26 at 8:09 pm to Dire Wolf
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The kid in that movie is annoying
He’s easily the worst part of the movie. It’s not close.
Posted on 5/26/26 at 8:37 pm to CocomoLSU
Such a quotable movie.
"The war between the sexes is over. We won. We won the second women started doing pole dancing for exercise."
Jacob: Are you the billionaire owner of Apple Computers?
Cal: No.
Jacob: Oh, OK. In that case, you've got no right to wear New Balance sneakers, ever.
"The war between the sexes is over. We won. We won the second women started doing pole dancing for exercise."
Jacob: Are you the billionaire owner of Apple Computers?
Cal: No.
Jacob: Oh, OK. In that case, you've got no right to wear New Balance sneakers, ever.
Posted on 5/27/26 at 8:18 am to elprez00
Steve Carell and Gosling were good together in this movie. The backyard scene was great.
Posted on 5/27/26 at 8:31 am to elprez00
I love the movie but I hate the underlying theme that basically tries to blame Cal for his wife cheating. And then when THEY ARE SEPARATED she has the audacity to act like him sleeping with 9 women is an issue??
Posted on 5/27/26 at 8:36 am to iwyLSUiwy
quote:She fricked around while they were married and not separated. And then continued to see the dude she was fricking after he moved out.
cheated, I'm pretty sure it'd be unforgivable and I'd 100% be done. But as far as the movie goes, I don't think I'd view her as a whore
quote:He fricked around AFTER they were separated. There was nothing morally wrong with what he was doing. He wasn’t cheating on her.
Steve Carrell was more of a whore than she was actually.
quote:Thats what should have happened and it would have been a happier ending for him. Instead she got to be a whore and step out on their marriage for a while only to get it all back at the end because he had to “fight for her”? frick that noise
They might as well have had Steve Carrell just continue to keep hooking up with women and they never get back together.
Again, I love this movie but my blood pressure does rise up and when talking about it sometimes
This post was edited on 5/27/26 at 8:38 am
Posted on 5/27/26 at 9:06 am to Henry Jones Jr
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love the movie but I hate the underlying theme that basically tries to blame Cal for his wife cheating. And then when THEY ARE SEPARATED she has the audacity to act like him sleeping with 9 women is an issue??
Watched this again the other day.
And while Cal isn't to blame for his wife throwing her titties in Lindhagen's hands, he does have responsibility for it, as others have eloquently mentioned. He lost his masculinity, and he lost his confidence. He quit. He became, as another poster mentioned, invisible.
Once he got his confidence back and started being a catch on the dating market, Moore's character gets turned around and doesn't know how to handle it. She's not angry that he slept with other women (though that's how it comes across, but the issue is never the issue with women). She's angry that he had the balls to pull it off, and wonders why he didn't do that with her.
It's a great flick. And I agree that Gosling wouldn't settle for Stone, based on looks alone. But he liked her specifically because he couldn't have her. And when she did throw herself at him, he couldn't seal the deal because it was so out of her character. He actually liked her for who she was, not what she had.
Finally, the hairstylist girl in that movie is an absolute smokeshow. YT link for evidence
This post was edited on 5/27/26 at 9:07 am
Posted on 5/27/26 at 9:18 am to RoyalAir
quote:frick that shite. His brand of masculinity was taking care of his family. He went straight from high school to being a father. He put his family ahead of the trappings of "visible masculinity." There's a reason that he wore cheap clothes and didn't bother with expensive cars or hobbies. The money he saved driving a Prius didn't go to a hunting camp or a bass boat, it went to the care of his wife and kids. She failed, he didn't.
And while Cal isn't to blame for his wife throwing her titties in Lindhagen's hands, he does have responsibility for it, as others have eloquently mentioned. He lost his masculinity, and he lost his confidence. He quit. He became, as another poster mentioned, invisible.
Posted on 5/27/26 at 9:34 am to Fewer Kilometers
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His brand of masculinity was taking care of his family. He went straight from high school to being a father. He put his family ahead of the trappings of "visible masculinity." There's a reason that he wore cheap clothes and didn't bother with expensive cars or hobbies. The money he saved driving a Prius didn't go to a hunting camp or a bass boat, it went to the care of his wife and kids. She failed, he didn't.
All of this is true, which is why Gosling's character is the true unhappy one, and ultimately wants what Cal has. No argument from me that Cal *did* have a brand of masculinity that was responsible, and it was admirable.
Ultimately, this is why the babysitter is impressed with him, and has a crush on him. He's a good man. And he does most all the things "right." But along the way, he lost what ultimately made him attractive to his wife.
But it was too bland for the recipe. He needed some salt. Some confidence. Some desire to improve.
Even Julianne Moore's character realizes this when she calls Cal about the water heater. She needed that stability more than she needed the fling of Lindhagen.
You're not going to hear an argument out of me defending Moore's character. She sucks. She's the real villain, and Cal was likely better off without her. But, Cal does have responsibility for his actions, and how he lost his masculine confidence along the way. You *can be* too available to where you become boring. Cal had done so. I'm not suggesting he should have gotten a Harley or picked up speedboating. But he needed something that was intrinsic to *him alone* in order to be the best version of himself.
This post was edited on 5/27/26 at 9:36 am
Posted on 5/27/26 at 10:08 am to RoyalAir
quote:He has zero responsibility for it. She’s a grown woman and made that decision. Not him. She chose not to communicate or just leave. She wanted to be a whore and come home to her security blanket.
And while Cal isn't to blame for his wife throwing her titties in Lindhagen's hands, he does have responsibility for it, as others have eloquently mentioned. He lost his masculinity, and he lost his confidence. He quit. He became, as another poster mentioned, invisible.
Nobody has any responsibility for their SO stepping out on them. If she felt unseen that’s completely on her for not leaving
This post was edited on 5/27/26 at 10:10 am
Posted on 5/27/26 at 11:17 am to LSUJuicer
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Joking aside top 3 chick flick for guys.
i am once again asking for a tournament of romantic comedies so this can win.
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