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re: Christopher Nolan is the most overrated Director. And Dark Knight is a stupid film.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 11:16 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 7/19/21 at 11:16 am to SlowFlowPro
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people legit thought i was insane or trolling in real time after i came back after a midnight premier showing being critical of it
Good thing Magildachunks has now validated your opinion from back then. Finally
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Posted on 7/19/21 at 11:19 am to SlowFlowPro
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if you didn't criticize the film when it first came out and people were orgasminig over it, then your opinion means little
I’ve always been on board the TDK is overrated train.
BB
The Prestige
Inception
Are Nolan’s best movies
The first 2/3 of TDK is really good - but the third act is absolutely trash
TDKR is a parody of a Batman film
And Tenet may be the worst movie I’ve seen in the theater in my life
This post was edited on 7/19/21 at 11:21 am
Posted on 7/19/21 at 11:24 am to magildachunks
Posted on 7/19/21 at 12:50 pm to GeauxLSUGeaux
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The Prestige is one of my all time faves.
It's legit in contention for best movie of the 2000s.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 12:59 pm to magildachunks
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Wolverine, The Punisher, and hell, Spiderman, would have killed the Joker in a heartbeat. Spiderman would have been the most reluctant, but would have done it anyway because there's no reason to let that man live.
Yeah I remember All the times Spider-Man murdered the guys he had hanging in his webs for the greater good.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 1:06 pm to magildachunks
quote:nah
Christopher Nolan is the most overrated Director.
quote:yep. I don't even consider the comic book movies canon for him
And Dark Knight is a stupid film.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 3:50 pm to SlowFlowPro
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if you didn't criticize the film when it first came out and people were orgasminig over it, then your opinion means little
I was.
I was with you on the firing line for the same opinion back then.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 7:35 pm to magildachunks
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His best film is Batman Begins
That was his best Batman film.
But his BEST film is The Prestige.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 11:35 pm to memphis tiger
It is silly to call Nolan overrated. Simply put, he has enough great movies that most appreciate and a style that forces the viewer to have to think, which very few movies do.
I think the idea of TDK was a great one. The execution lacked simply because, as others pointed out, too much was forced into one movie. I think the problem with the types of deals made over these comic book movies is that the movie companies are eerie about getting my on the hook for too much with one group. Had it been a 4 or 5 series of films for the Dark Knight series, I think Nolan would have done far less cramming into the TDK and allowed for more character development, particularly with Dent.
In regards to the Jokers plan, his goal was to create chaos and he didn’t really care about things working out to a tee. The guy but set his half of the mobsters money because it wasn’t about the money. It was about the chaos for him. That is what he strove for.
Being in the same jail isn’t so h believable seeing as he didn’t have to 1) literally be in the same cell and 2) I doubt the police were going to take all the perps picked up from the event to random precincts.
All that said, the movie was not as good as many May have felt initially, but was still huge on the development of the characters of Batman, the joker and Chief Gordon.
I think the idea of TDK was a great one. The execution lacked simply because, as others pointed out, too much was forced into one movie. I think the problem with the types of deals made over these comic book movies is that the movie companies are eerie about getting my on the hook for too much with one group. Had it been a 4 or 5 series of films for the Dark Knight series, I think Nolan would have done far less cramming into the TDK and allowed for more character development, particularly with Dent.
In regards to the Jokers plan, his goal was to create chaos and he didn’t really care about things working out to a tee. The guy but set his half of the mobsters money because it wasn’t about the money. It was about the chaos for him. That is what he strove for.
Being in the same jail isn’t so h believable seeing as he didn’t have to 1) literally be in the same cell and 2) I doubt the police were going to take all the perps picked up from the event to random precincts.
All that said, the movie was not as good as many May have felt initially, but was still huge on the development of the characters of Batman, the joker and Chief Gordon.
This post was edited on 7/19/21 at 11:37 pm
Posted on 7/20/21 at 12:42 am to magildachunks
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The Joker's entire plan relies on Batman and Dent making very specific choices and actions. And one of those is that he will be in the same Jail that his guy with a phone bomb in his stomach is in. But before that, his plan relies on Batman and Dent coming up with a plan along with Gordon to "Bring him out" along a route that they decided right before they started the ruse.
Then it relied on Batman not killing him, which is why Batman is a stupid character that I've always put in the lower section of my favorite comic characters. The "no killing" rule is an idiotic rule.
Wolverine, The Punisher, and hell, Spiderman, would have killed the Joker in a heartbeat. Spiderman would have been the most reluctant, but would have done it anyway because there's no reason to let that man live.
But bac to the Dark Knight movie, the Joker's masterplan is one he has no control over. He puts his final chesspiece in the hand of others. Which makes no sense.
There are police on both boats. His plan is to trick the boats into blowing at least the other up by making them believe that if they don't, the other boat will blow them up, so they must strike first. But the police on both boats would take the triggers, and...that's it. Nobody would push the button.
And then Batman tells Gordon that he must proclaim him to be the villain to protect the image of Dent so that the citizens still believe in Dent and are inspired by what he preached.
But why? Why did Batman have to take the blame and become the bad guy? There was no reason to even think of that ploy, much less suggest it, and then agree to it.
Why blame Batman for Dent's crimes, when you could just blame the Joker?
The entire movie is stupid. It's like the Matrix: it's a film that delves into philosophical concepts that are considered deep by a person who only took an Intro to Philosophy course.
This is all painfully, embarrassingly stupid.
Posted on 7/20/21 at 1:16 am to magildachunks
Have you seen the prestige? If so, what is wring with you Nolan could never be overrated
Posted on 7/20/21 at 6:12 am to magildachunks
Posted on 7/20/21 at 8:42 am to LoveThatMoney
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Memento, The Prestige, Inception, Insomnia are all great movies
Inception is the most overrated movie of the 21st century.
Posted on 7/20/21 at 8:56 am to magildachunks
Spiderman wouldn't have killed Joker because he didn't kill Green Goblin after he killed Gwen Stacy
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