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re: Chernobyl Episode 5 "Vichnaya Pamyat" - Season Finale
Posted on 6/7/19 at 6:06 am to TigerFanatic99
Posted on 6/7/19 at 6:06 am to TigerFanatic99
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Both. It's based on the actual events, but there's debate about how accurate it is. I wouldn't call it a documentary, but rather an original series based on the event.
Though we (Americans) want to believe that its accurate and Russia did everything wrong and put everyone at risk, that could be a stretch and not completely the truth
If that movie was made in Russia, it would show how good of a job they did to fix the problem.
I will keep on believing Russia is a evil place and all but Im smart enough to know that its not always the truth
Great series and I really enjoyed it.
Posted on 6/7/19 at 6:46 am to LanierSpots
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Though we (Americans) want to believe that its accurate
Obviously, as a dramatic product, liberties were taken all along the way, for time, to tell a better story.
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Russia did everything wrong and put everyone at risk
100% accurate. They exploded something that was unexplodable. And the last thing on Earth one would want to explode.
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If that movie was made in Russia, it would show how good of a job they did to fix the problem.
More about blaming individuals (or, more likely, outsiders). Like someone posted earlier, Russians are talking about making a version where a CIA operative sabotages it.
But, regardless, this series DID (went out of its way, in fact appears to have been the entire point of the program) show the effort and great sacrifice that primarily Ukrainians and Russians (but also others) made to keep it from getting worse and cleaning it up.
It remains a great embarrassment to the old Soviets, many of whom are still alive.
This post was edited on 6/7/19 at 6:48 am
Posted on 6/7/19 at 7:16 am to SPEEDY
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On a side note, the soviets sure did love them some cigarettes. Those commies were some chain smoking sons a bitches
Between this show and Mad Men Jared Harris (Legasov) is going to get fake lung cancer from all of the fake cigarettes he's had to smoke.
Posted on 6/7/19 at 7:34 am to LanierSpots
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Though we (Americans) want to believe that its accurate and Russia did everything wrong and put everyone at risk, that could be a stretch and not completely the truth
If that movie was made in Russia, it would show how good of a job they did to fix the problem.
I will keep on believing Russia is a evil place and all but Im smart enough to know that its not always the truth
Listen to the podcast that the creator did. This was essentially his whole reasoning behind wanting to do the podcast. He does a great job of explaining what events actually happened, which probably/may have happened, and which were full artistic liberties.
I just finished the show last night, and it truly was an amazing show. I imagine it's going to rake during award season.
Posted on 6/7/19 at 7:49 am to Salamander_Wilson
Overall, it was very well done, and really made the entire series of events understandable to anyone watching, which I think is what made it so good.
Now, in reality, a woman rushing to Chernobyl and being stopped would have been shot and dumped next to the deer, but we all know that her character was a fictional representation of many others, and I thought it was well done. Doesn't matter to me if it was a woman or a man, the results and dialog would be the same.
Now, in reality, a woman rushing to Chernobyl and being stopped would have been shot and dumped next to the deer, but we all know that her character was a fictional representation of many others, and I thought it was well done. Doesn't matter to me if it was a woman or a man, the results and dialog would be the same.
Posted on 6/7/19 at 4:04 pm to Ace Midnight
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It remains a great embarrassment to the old Soviets, many of whom are still alive.
It bankrupted the Soviet Union and played a part in its dissolution. But I think that goes hand and hand with how broke they are at that point and how their shoddy construction of reactors created such an unsafe situation. It’s not too much of a stretch to assume that much is accurate in the storytelling.
I know it cost over a billion and something like 20 years to “clean up” Three Mile Island and that was nothing compared to Chernobyl.
Posted on 6/8/19 at 8:18 am to iwyLSUiwy
What I thought was so well done in addition to what has already been mentioned, is how authentic the Chernobyl plant looked and the city of Pripyat. I’ve viewed many pictures of both online and I would venture to say they nailed it. It is so haunting to look at the ghost town that is Pripyat. Scary to think of how rapidly it was evacuated and fascinating to see how nature has reclaimed it.
Posted on 6/8/19 at 9:47 am to Del Devereaux
Finally watching this and my god did Stellan crush that courtroom scene 
Posted on 6/8/19 at 12:36 pm to Del Devereaux
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What I thought was so well done in addition to what has already been mentioned, is how authentic the Chernobyl plant looked and the city of Pripyat. I’ve viewed many pictures of both online and I would venture to say they nailed it. It is so haunting to look at the ghost town that is Pripyat. Scary to think of how rapidly it was evacuated and fascinating to see how nature has reclaimed it.
I kept asking the wife, how do they recreate these scenes? Is it all special effects? Are there any sets, miniatures? It's amazing.
Posted on 6/8/19 at 12:40 pm to BluegrassBelle
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I know it cost over a billion and something like 20 years to “clean up” Three Mile Island and that was nothing compared to Chernobyl.
It's ironic that in the courtroom scene, Legasov goes into detail about how the Soviets where cheapskates, but then they bankrupt their country trying to fix what they could have avoided with much less if done right the first time.
Cutting corners with a nuclear reactor isn't wise.
Posted on 6/9/19 at 6:34 am to Revelator
I read somewhere that the series was filmed in Lithuania which is in the same region as Ukraine and an existing and fully operational nuclear power station doubled as Chernobyl. The iconic red and white smokestack looked identical to the real one too. They even got the filming right by filming on gray and overcast days which are so prevalent in Russia and the surrounding former Republics. The depressing and dark look of that Moscow hospital with those same green and brown colors in all the rooms set the mood well.
The town in Lithuania that was used for Pripyat really captured that bland, generic and constant Soviet architecture.
The town in Lithuania that was used for Pripyat really captured that bland, generic and constant Soviet architecture.
Posted on 6/9/19 at 1:31 pm to Cap Crunch
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it truly was an amazing show. I imagine it's going to rake during award season.
Hang on, imma let you finish, but Game of Thrones JUST finished the greatest season of television of all time.
Posted on 6/9/19 at 1:37 pm to Revelator
Jared Harris and Stellan better win all the awards. Both were incredible
Posted on 6/9/19 at 2:19 pm to Sun God
Im worried that the anticommunist undertones will hurt it come award season
Hollywood loves them some Marxism.
Hollywood loves them some Marxism.
Posted on 6/9/19 at 3:13 pm to Cosmo
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m worried that the anticommunist undertones will hurt it come award season
Hollywood loves them some Marxism.
Listening to the podcast discussing the part with the old lady who wouldn't leave her home as she was milking her cow, they discussed about the area around Chernobyl back in Stalin's days had it's successful farmers essentially get removed. This was because they were doing too good, and ones that can control the food distribution have power and the central government didn't allow for that, under the policy of "kolkhoz".
Funny to me that the obvious liberal writer (he commented negatively on the 2016 election in another podcast) spoke of how "wrong" it seemed this kolkhoz was, yet it seems like today's liberal wants just this. They do not want people to be successful, it should be for the government to decide and distribute.
Posted on 6/9/19 at 3:19 pm to Cosmo
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Im worried that the anticommunist undertones will hurt it come award season
Don’t you worry about that
It was basically a prelude to climate change
Posted on 6/10/19 at 7:44 am to Del Devereaux
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I read somewhere that the series was filmed in Lithuania which is in the same region as Ukraine and an existing and fully operational nuclear power station doubled as Chernobyl. The iconic red and white smokestack looked identical to the real one too. They even got the filming right by filming on gray and overcast days which are so prevalent in Russia and the surrounding former Republics. The depressing and dark look of that Moscow hospital with those same green and brown colors in all the rooms set the mood well. The town in Lithuania that was used for Pripyat really captured that bland, generic and constant Soviet architecture.
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 7:58 am to East Coast Band
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Funny to me that the obvious liberal writer (he commented negatively on the 2016 election in another podcast) spoke of how "wrong" it seemed this kolkhoz was, yet it seems like today's liberal wants just this. They do not want people to be successful, it should be for the government to decide and distribute.
It’s ok for people to be successful under their ideas, it just has to be their people.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 9:36 am to iwyLSUiwy
Just finished last night. Best thing I've watched in a long time. One question I have is about the other three reactors continuing to operate. How did the workers keep those running without being contaminated? I am assuming they all didn't die.
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