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re: Captain America: Civil War ***SPOILERS*** and Review Thread

Posted on 5/17/16 at 10:43 am to
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 5/17/16 at 10:43 am to
quote:

For power levels, I'd put him behind Iron Man, War Machine, Vision, Wanda... Spider-Man's greatest power is his popularity.



Spidey is pretty strong. He is usually strong enough to lift 20 tons on the power level charts.
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 5/17/16 at 11:15 am to
quote:

Spidey is pretty strong. He is usually strong enough to lift 20 tons on the power level charts.


If this thread wasn't full nerd already, we're certainly there now.
Posted by EthanL
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 5/17/16 at 11:37 am to
The only person more powerful than Spider-Man in that movie was Vision
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/17/16 at 11:41 am to
quote:

Spidey is pretty strong. He is usually strong enough to lift 20 tons on the power level charts.


He shouldn't have had any trouble with that walkway that Cap dropped on him.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
17699 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 11:42 am to
One of the complaints that I've heard is that every single hero was holding back the entire time. The only time we saw anyone go all out was Ironman and he still held back in order to not kill Cap.

Eta: Not my complaint. I thoroughly enjoyed it. It's my roommate who's in the "someone needed to die" and "there was no point to this movie" camp.

I enjoyed the main point that there is no black and white, right or wrong. The enemy isn't always evil and there are two sides to every coin.
This post was edited on 5/17/16 at 1:53 pm
Posted by RonBurgundy
Whale's Vagina(San Diego)
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 5/17/16 at 12:52 pm to
quote:

Spidey is pretty strong. He is usually strong enough to lift 20 tons on the power level charts.


If this thread wasn't full nerd already, we're certainly there now.


Strength Scale

So to go full on nerd here, Comic Steve can lift 1200 lbs(overhead press), I believe MCU Steve is stronger.

Secondly in link Steve's one time replacement-U.S. Agent aka John Walker a goverment recruit that replaced Cap when he quit can lift 10 tons.

The MCU might be leaving the door open for U.S. Agent joining Tony's squad-especially since his father developed a new Super Solider Serum.

John Walker eventually ran The Raft in the comics.
Posted by arktiger28
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 5/17/16 at 1:26 pm to
quote:

One of the complaints that I've heard is that every single hero was holding back the entire time. The only time we saw anyone go all out was Ironman and he still held back in order to not kill Cap.


That was the beauty of it. They didn't want to kill each other so it was kind of nice to see them holding back. It was different than seeing the waste a bunch of droids or aliens.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 5/17/16 at 1:33 pm to
well they were trying to stop them, not kill them.
Posted by Dan Bilzerian
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Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 5/17/16 at 1:39 pm to
My only question..

How did the Slakovian know where to find everything that linked Bucky to the murder of Stark's parents?
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38672 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 1:42 pm to
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My only question..

How did the Slakovian know where to find everything that linked Bucky to the murder of Stark's parents?



"Skills and Patience"
Posted by Dan Bilzerian
..on my yacht or jet.
Member since Dec 2014
1864 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 1:44 pm to
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"Skills and Patience"




Tony Stark and his infinite abilities to find everything would have found out first if that were the case.
Posted by Sgt_Lincoln_Osiris
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Posted on 5/17/16 at 1:47 pm to
Didn't Fury release everything from SHIELD/HYDRA to the public? It's possible Zemo found it there after doing lots of digging through 80 years of files.
Posted by Dan Bilzerian
..on my yacht or jet.
Member since Dec 2014
1864 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 1:55 pm to
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Didn't Fury release everything from SHIELD/HYDRA to the public? It's possible Zemo found it there after doing lots of digging through 80 years of files.



Could be.

Once again, Tony would have found out first.

He could sit in front of a Senate Committee and hack into several countries attempt to make Iron Man knockoffs, including Hammer's, yet he wouldn't have figured this out when the info is free to everyone?
Posted by Sgt_Lincoln_Osiris
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 5/17/16 at 2:05 pm to
But that was back before he knew about aliens and his anxiety got the best of him to where he was building a new iron man suit almost every week. He's had a lot on his plate.

Sure you can pick that he didn't look up the file on his parents, but I guess he was more concerned about the future than the past, especially after his vision in Ultron.
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38672 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 2:20 pm to
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Could be.

Once again, Tony would have found out first.

He could sit in front of a Senate Committee and hack into several countries attempt to make Iron Man knockoffs, including Hammer's, yet he wouldn't have figured this out when the info is free to everyone?


Why would he go looking for information on his parents death? He had no second thoughts, no questions, the Augmented Reality scene was showing that although he wished that things happened differently, he had no assumption that his parents death was anything other than an accident.
Posted by vilma4prez
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2009
6675 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 2:31 pm to
Zemo actually mentions when you first meet him that Black Widow put everything out on the internet after Shield collapse.

And even though it was super coded and he took his time trying to find something to use...

The winter soldier program was it..
Posted by RonBurgundy
Whale's Vagina(San Diego)
Member since Oct 2005
13302 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 2:45 pm to
quote:

How did the Slakovian know where to find everything that linked Bucky to the murder of Stark's parents?




The Sokovian found out about the Red Ledger and went from there.

Tony had no reason to look for it if he believed the crash was innocent.
Posted by CoachDon
Louisville
Member since Sep 2014
12409 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 6:04 pm to
quote:

. Spider-Man's greatest power is his popularity


You wanna throw down now bro?

Posted by AlienCrusader
Member since Feb 2016
141 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 7:32 pm to
Spiderman is as strong as an elephant. he could rip Cap, WS, black panther, and black widow apart
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
32403 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 10:01 pm to
quote:

Seriously. When did Spider-Man become Superman? For power levels, I'd put him behind Iron Man, War Machine, Vision, Wanda... Spider-Man's greatest power is his popularity


SpiderMan is a damn powerful hero. Don't know what you're talking about. He's borderline as strong as hulk, faster than anybody except cap, quicksilver, or flash, more agile than batman or Cap, and shoots web.

It was pretty obvious that he was new to his powers at this point of time and probably not used to a a fight vs people with powers as opposed to the average Queens thug.
This post was edited on 5/17/16 at 10:25 pm
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