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re: ‘Captain America: Brave New World’ Suffers 68% Drop in Second Weekend

Posted on 2/24/25 at 12:35 pm to
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 12:35 pm to
Who could have ever seen this coming?
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 12:42 pm to
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At this point doing that seems like they are admitting they made a mistake. You can't bring in a multiverse t'challa and just pretend he's the same character. They missed the boat on that. We'll see what they do I guess.


Secret Wars will be a whole reset for the MCU. It's how you bring in the Fantastic Four, X-Men, it's how you get rid of characters you no longer want, and in some cases like Black Panther, possibly Iron Man, Cap, etc it's how you bring back some others.

That's what I think happens. We meet a Black Panther from another universe, and that universe collides with the current MCU.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
43130 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 12:54 pm to
TBD if Disney Daredevil is actually Daredevil.

Sure as hell wasn’t in SheHulk or Echo. And you’re lying if you say it was.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33433 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 12:57 pm to
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If they "pay" ESPN $1 million for that same ad spot how much did Disney spend?

uhhhh, a million dollars?

* Because ESPN employees dont work for free
* Because that ESPN ad revenue has already been accounted for in its contracts with sports leagues that they pay to broadcast rights etc
* ESPN streaming service is losing money, and advertising with them isnt saving the parent company a percentage, when the service is posting a loss that they will never recover
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ESPN+ posts $65m loss as subscribers continue to fall
Posted by concrete_tiger
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 1:05 pm to
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Who could have ever seen this coming?



It really is quite amazing. This is the type of thing that normally gets people fired from their jobs.

Can you imagine launching something that costs investors a half billion dollars, and having done zero research to find out of the public wanted this or would be willing to pay to see it? It is legitimate malpractice.

Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33433 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 1:20 pm to
It was solely about putting a black face on Capt AMERICA

Then the actor with the black face says America aint about all that goodness. And they act surprised that he would do that, or that movie goers would say 'eff that' to his character
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 1:23 pm to
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Then the actor with the black face says America aint about all that goodness.


Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33433 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 1:28 pm to
Again, seriously?
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“Captain America represents a lot of different things, and I don’t think the term ‘America’ should be one of those representations. It’s about a man who keeps his word, who has honor, dignity and integrity. Someone who is trustworthy and dependable. It's kind of like an aspect of a dream come true.

When you look out your window, and you see a five-year-old kid with a stick, and he's slaying dragons to save the princess in the tower, the kid really believes there are dragons out there, the kid really believes the stick is a sword, and he's really trying to save that princess. And then one day, someone told him, 'No, there are no dragons, that's not a sword, and that princess is not there.' And all of his little dreams were dashed
Posted by JasonMason
Memphis
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 1:29 pm to
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Secret Wars will be a whole reset for the MCU.


Yeah I don't disagree with the mechanics of it. The multiverse saga has been a dud though. It's an attempt at a soft reboot of the MCU.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 1:34 pm to
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But to kind of counter point your points, it's pretty well known Namor will be back.
it was, when they thought it was going to be well received. But now they are supposedly recasting T'Challa, so I would bet on a less pathetic, better cast Namor, if at all.

The actor who played Namor was shite. The role was too big for him. Perhaps that is why they wrote Namor as pathetic, instead of the proud, volatile, arrogant, imposing, alpha playboy he is in the comics. They knew the actor couldn't pull it off.

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. I don't think they "shamelessly" exploited his death at all.
it was in every promo and trailer.

I mean shite, man. They could acknowledge it, but they played the sentiment card full tilt. You got the feeling you were watching the movie because you owed it to Chadwick, which is exactly how the trailers played it.

Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 1:49 pm to
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The multiverse saga has been a dud though.

The multiverse idea just isnt that entertaining. It's an enteresting concept to explore as far as real life quantum physics possibilities. Much less fun as a tool to bring back dead characters and shite like that.

Spidey-verse used the multiverse as a primary plot point and nailed it, but aside from that it just seems as a way to make nothing have consequences (which spidey-verse also addressed as a primary part of the plot)
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 2:46 pm to
I know what he said. Totally different than what you said.
Posted by Jay Are
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 4:28 pm to
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If you're not going to even pretend to understand how it works, we're done.


The people like you pretending to understand the Hollywood accounting, who are also using blanket ballpark numbers, are much worse.

Two films had combined budgets of $850 million? $400 million on marketing for those same films? You are making shite up.

Everyone in here is just as dumb and blind on the subject of Hollywood accounting as everyone else.
Posted by Crimson K
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Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 7:05 pm to
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Everyone in here is just as dumb and blind on the subject of Hollywood accounting as everyone else


That is almost certainly true, BUT it is crazy to say that breaking even on a $400+ million investment is successful whether talking Hollywood, Wall Street, or a back alley somewhere. Then claiming other films that made bank make up for it somehow are just downright gaslighting.

I’ve tried to stay away from the crazies celebrating Disney’s downfall or the shills who trumpet nonsense as good news shite throwing contests. I’d hope everyone wants good movies/shows instead of bad to mediocre ones. Let’s hope F4, Daredevil and everything leading up to Secret Wars knocks it out of the park.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 2/25/25 at 12:14 am to
If breaking even is viewed as a win going forward, the MCU will be scrapped

Why would Disney keep making movies that make no money?
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33433 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 12:50 am to
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I know what he said. Totally different than what you said.

He said America isnt really a word to be associated with Cap, and the goodness that drives him. In fact, he pontificated further about a kid fighting dragons, and castles, and princess and doing battle against evil, and how devastated he was to find out it didnt exist.

If youre incapable of seeing that Mackie was comparing the battles by Cap FOR American ideals, and how that doesnt exist either, then I cant help you
Posted by TigerMan327
Elsewhere
Member since Feb 2011
6088 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 6:31 am to
He said this while promoting the film in GREECE.

He was saying it’s not just for Americans IMO. Just some word play to get foreigners involved
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66890 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 7:07 am to
The Disney shills are melting
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 2/25/25 at 7:25 am to
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He said America isnt really a word to be associated with Cap, and the goodness that drives him.


Why don't I help you out.

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“Captain America represents a lot of different things and I don't think the term 'America' should be one of those representations. It's about a man who keeps his word, who has honor, dignity and integrity.”


Followed later by this:

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"Let me be clear about this, I'm a proud American" and that he has "the utmost respect for those who serve and have served our country". He also said that Captain America "has universal characteristics that people all over the world can relate to".


He was promoting the film in another country. Obviously he's trying to make the movie more appealing to a broader audience than just Americans. You believe what you want though.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 7:27 am to
They arent worried about being intellectually honest, they are just trying to pull quotes out of context to claim mackie is anti-american
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