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re: By far the worst thing about The Office

Posted on 7/25/22 at 2:38 pm to
Posted by Liberator
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Posted on 7/25/22 at 2:38 pm to
I loved this series during the years Michael Scott was on the show.

The obvious worst things about the show have already been mentioned:

The Office episodes AND full Seasons without Michael Scott were pure crap.

In that aftermath, weak comic book characters were created, absurd plot-lines and relationships were forced, and a major unmentioned disappointment. Eventually, the entire show lost focus and why people liked The Office -- the relatability, fundamental goodness and quirks of its characters.

For whatever reason or agenda, character flaws, subversiveness and creepiness began seeping into basically every character and plot-lines. Almost every character was befallen by a breakdown of basic morals & ethics. (One of the initial strengths of the show had been its the quaint naivete and middle America values.) By the end of its run, nearly EVERY character suffered and became unlikable AND annoying. Let's be honest -- the last two years compared to the Michael Scott Years were Day vs Night.

Devolution:

-- Pam & Jim both became bipolar out of nowhere. Their marriage and relationship was totally and unnecessarily corrupted by the show's producers

-- Angela was a turrible person and hypocrite cast as Hollywood's default corrupted "Christian" to begin with. That ensured her morals & ethics would be horribly fake -- and that worsened. She cheated on Andy with Dwight. Pretty much coerces him to be impregnated.

-- Oscar has an affair with Angela's gay politician hubby. (with whom "good guy" Oscar has an apologetic flaming affair)

-- Michael had an affair with the married woman.

-- Dwight was a benign lovable psychopath who developed into a full-on insane psycho

-- Andy was seemingly possessed by 100 different personalities

-- Nell was a most unlikable, unnecessary character to begin with, developing into the worst of the annoying and show-killer.

-- Robert California could have had potential. Until the writers got lazy and made him one more character with multiple (strange & unlikable) personality traits.

What started as a likable version of a "Misfit Island" Office became 'Lord of the Flies' overnight when The Office split into two versions. That was another ridiculous, meandering plotline. (so was the dumb Dwight beet-farm spin-off show intention possibility)

Older characters became unrecognizable. Newer characters became nuisance filler for what became The anti-Office show that more resemble any of the actual Reality Show on at the time.

So in short, completely unlike Seinfeld -- which went out on a high note -- The Office this show unabashedly ran straight off a cliff. My The Office critique has turned into a, "What an unwatchable, unredeemable trainwreck 'The Office' became." The last episode was lipstick on a pig.

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Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 7/25/22 at 2:48 pm to
agree with pretty much all of that. One other thing that was weird to me was how later in the series dwight was some kind of badass ladies man stud poon slayer. There was the attractice girl at jims wedding, the volleyball team at the bar in NYC that wants him, and eventaully the really hot foreigner later on that I don't even remember much of because the show stunk by then.

In early seasons dwight is an aloof awkward dork that has probably never even seen a female vagina in his life, but he somehow morphs into brad pitt
Posted by bad93ex
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 7/25/22 at 2:52 pm to
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In early seasons dwight is an aloof awkward dork that has probably never even seen a female vagina


He went from banging his old babysitter to irresistible to women.
Posted by theGarnetWay
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Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 7/25/22 at 2:55 pm to
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Pam


Honestly I think the last did a pretty bad disservice to Pam's character overall. I think people almost forget how much they enjoyed Pam's character in the earlier seasons because of the last couple seasons when they made her annoying to watch.
This post was edited on 7/25/22 at 3:13 pm
Posted by Master of Sinanju
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 7/25/22 at 3:03 pm to
Moving her away from reception was horrible for her character. In sales, she was no longer Michael's babysitter, which was a great role for her early on. The writers had to come up with something elsw for her and ruined the character.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 7/25/22 at 3:07 pm to
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Moving her away from reception was horrible for her character. In sales, she was no longer Michael's babysitter, which was a great role for her early on. The writers had to come up with something elsw for her and ruined the character.



there's that, but also early on she's the plain jain everywoman that we feel bad for since she's trapped in a crappy love life and we so desperately want her to be happy and get with jim. Once she undergoes a makeover and looks a lot more attractive, and then gets wiht the guy and gets married and has a kid, her story isn't nearly as appealing anymore.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 7/25/22 at 3:57 pm to
quote:

One other thing that was weird to me was how later in the series dwight was some kind of badass ladies man stud poon slayer.

He was fricking Angela pretty early on, so we can safely assume that she wilded out on him and turned him into a minx. I loved the whole Dwight/Isabella storyline. That was great. Same with the lady basketball team in NYC.

shite, one of my favorite low-key/side storylines of the show is that Dwight is kind of a pimp.


quote:

Honestly I think the last did a pretty bad disservice to Pam's character overall. I think people almost forget how much they enjoyed Pam's character in the earlier seasons because of the last couple seasons when they made her annoying to watch.

I agree that they did ruin her character. At least they did make a soft attempt in the last few episodes to remedy some of that by having her acknowledge how stupid she was (she literally addresses it on its face at the meet and greet/Q&A with all the fans).

And I do agree that moving her from reception was a mistake. While I appreciated the Office Administrator thing (which was complete bullshite, btw ), she was better suited for reception. Plus, it would've saved us from a lot of Erin bullshite. I liked her character enough, I guess, but the whole Erin shite with Andy, her Florida shite, how she was literally stupid most of the time, etc...that character wore thin on me.
This post was edited on 7/25/22 at 4:02 pm
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 7/25/22 at 4:15 pm to
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Pam & Jim both became bipolar out of nowhere. Their marriage and relationship was totally and unnecessarily corrupted by the show's producers

I thought it was pretty clear that the stress of having kids is what started their relationship issues.

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Andy was seemingly possessed by 100 different personalities

He's a yes man that will change his personality based on what he thinks the boss wants. He showed so many different personalities because he was a two-faced kiss arse.

I agree with you on the Dwight part. Even in later seasons when they start to humanize Dwight and show him being more rational, they still go out of their way to make him do something zany for shock/stupid value.
Posted by BCLA
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Member since Mar 2005
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Posted on 7/25/22 at 4:21 pm to
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Devolution



You left out the best example of this, Kevin. He went from Michael telling him not to become a caricature of himself, to something even worse. They pranked Holly telling her Kevin was retarded, to him actually becoming just that.
Posted by uscpuke
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/25/22 at 7:21 pm to
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By far the worst thing about The Office


Is Brian the sound guy responsible for the theme song being twice as loud as the actual episode? Because that is by far the worst thing about the office. Makes no sense trying to watch at night and the theme scaring the shite out of anyone sleeping.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158721 posts
Posted on 7/25/22 at 7:31 pm to
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The problem is mainly Andy as manager, and the Andy/Erin storyline. I hate those more than the Brian thing, but mainly because they seemed to dominate the later seasons. But the Brian thing was the worst


They wasted a ton of time on the Andy/Erin relationship for it to ultimately mean nothing.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
71269 posts
Posted on 7/25/22 at 7:43 pm to
Kevin wearing the Kleenex boxes for shoes was what the frick stupid
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