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re: Book of Eli Debate [SPOILER]
Posted on 1/27/10 at 5:34 am to Hermit Crab
Posted on 1/27/10 at 5:34 am to Hermit Crab
He's a jerk. But it was fairly obvious the guy was blind. You didn't have to have spoilers to figure it out.
This post was edited on 1/27/10 at 5:36 am
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Posted on 1/27/10 at 8:14 am to Lacour
Then why in the hotel room and in the nuclear shelter was he "reading" in the light.
Posted on 1/27/10 at 9:03 am to Afreaux
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One of the debates I've come across online was whether or not Eli was totally blind throughout the duration of the film.
1. A few times, he noticeably bumps into things.
2. He needlessly runs his hand along the faucet head in the house.
3. He noisily searches for things with his hands.
4. He doesn't shoot at someone unless they fire first.
5. He doesn't realize what brand the tape deck is even though the owner can see the brand name.
6. He feels for a flame when he lights the lighter.
7. He shoots an arrow when the cat growls.
But if that's the case, how does that explain how he knows how to hide from the bikers on the overpass? Or that a house is in the distance? The only reasoning I can give for the knife fights is that it's divine intervention. Either way, it's great marketing by the producers (a la TimeCrimes or Fight Club) to encourage moviegoers to watch it a second time.
Thoughts?
Saw it last night. I loved this movie. It never crossed my mind during the movie that he was blind, almost like the "Sixth Sense"
When I think back though I can see all of these signs that I ignored. I am going to watch it again and Im sure it will be obvious.
I loved it though.
Posted on 1/27/10 at 10:20 am to Rustontiger43
Maybe he didn't know there was light 
The way he bumps into things and feels for things and hears things and smells things.
It was pretty obvious. The only thing that threw it off was how was he reading?
Then we saw it was a braille Bible. I thought he was blind in the first five minutes and I hadn't read a spoiler.
The way he bumps into things and feels for things and hears things and smells things.
It was pretty obvious. The only thing that threw it off was how was he reading?
Then we saw it was a braille Bible. I thought he was blind in the first five minutes and I hadn't read a spoiler.
Posted on 1/27/10 at 10:56 am to Lacour
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Then we saw it was a braille Bible. I thought he was blind in the first five minutes and I hadn't read a spoiler.
Posted on 1/27/10 at 11:00 am to Lacour
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I thought he was blind in the first five minutes
I cant remember anything happening in the first 5 minutes to indicate that he was blind.
Posted on 1/27/10 at 11:03 am to bomber77
In the house where he camped there were several indicators that he was blind. He bumped into stuff, he ran his hand over the faucet, he touched the lighter to see if there was a flame, he touched the dead body, he felt all the way down the body to get to the boots, when he woke up he kept pressing his ipod to try to make it come on even though the battery was dead, he wasn't startled by the dead body but was startled by the doors breaking.
He also noticeably used his nose as a sense at the house.
It really was pretty clear.
He also noticeably used his nose as a sense at the house.
It really was pretty clear.
Posted on 1/27/10 at 11:06 am to Lacour
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It really was pretty clear.
Guess so, I just never thought about it. How long did it take you to figure out "The Sixth Sense"?
Posted on 1/27/10 at 11:24 am to Lacour
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It really was pretty clear
I thought they did a fairly good job of hiding it in plain site so you'd go "duh he was blind" after wards but you wouldn't feel tricked. If you're telling the truth about figuring it out in the first 5 minutes then you screwed yourself. It was a good movie to begin with, and then when the twist became obvious at the end it added a whole new level of enjoyment to the movie.
Regarding the light. I figure he used it to scare off the creatures of the night.
As far as the blindness plot holes go, don't think about it too much. If you see an inconsistency it's probably just a hole they planned on filling with divine intervention.
Posted on 2/6/10 at 10:14 pm to Lacour
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It really was pretty clear.
There were quite a few signs that he was blind. There were a lot more that made it seem like he could see.
Posted on 2/7/10 at 12:56 am to Lacour
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It really was pretty clear.
The man is walking across the United States as a knife-wielding killing machine. Sure if you spend the movie looking for those things it may be clear, but the guy kills people the entire movie... how is that consistent with what a blind man would be able to do?
Posted on 3/19/10 at 10:44 am to Afreaux
Finally had a chance to watch it for a second time (at literally the last showing in BR).....Holy shite, I don't think I ever got more from a second showing.
Truely an example of the mind seeing what it expects...the opening scenes (after he kills the cat) is riddled with cues that he is blind. And a number of them aren't subtle at ALL.
One thing was interesting is that it seemed that he had a slight film over his eyes, closed him and looked up and it was gone.
On a unrelated note, how are there still 30 people still going to a theater to watch Avatar on a weeknight? I popped in there mid showing just to see attendance.
Truely an example of the mind seeing what it expects...the opening scenes (after he kills the cat) is riddled with cues that he is blind. And a number of them aren't subtle at ALL.
One thing was interesting is that it seemed that he had a slight film over his eyes, closed him and looked up and it was gone.
On a unrelated note, how are there still 30 people still going to a theater to watch Avatar on a weeknight? I popped in there mid showing just to see attendance.
Posted on 3/19/10 at 11:05 am to Volvagia
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Truely an example of the mind seeing what it expects...the opening scenes (after he kills the cat) is riddled with cues that he is blind. And a number of them aren't subtle at ALL.
The way he clumsily searches the shelves should have been a tip-off, it's great that most people will never catch it.
Posted on 3/19/10 at 11:56 am to Afreaux
BTW, to answer your OP, based off the comment by Solara about how bright he had the lamp in his room....that says to me that he isn't 100% blind.
In bright situations, he can see gross things, like that bikers are coming or that there is a person there when he is walking down the street (why he doesn't bump into anyone in that scene).
But details, like what they are wearing or what they look like? Maybe/probably not.
In bright situations, he can see gross things, like that bikers are coming or that there is a person there when he is walking down the street (why he doesn't bump into anyone in that scene).
But details, like what they are wearing or what they look like? Maybe/probably not.
This post was edited on 3/19/10 at 11:57 am
Posted on 6/15/10 at 11:32 am to Volvagia
Wow, the entire movie I had no clue that he might be blind. Even after finishing the first viewing, I didn't think he was blind. After reading this thread and talking with others, I have no doubt he was blind to some extent. I think it was a combination of divine intervention and increased senses.
I really liked this movie. The movie has a lot of great lines like "No it's Johnny Cash live from Folsom Prison." I thought that was pretty funny. The ending was very powerful,imo. The scene where he tells Solara that he has been to caught up with doing his job, instead of doing what the book says really hit home. He says something along the lines of "To do more for others than you do for yourself".
The prayer at the end was powerful too. I hope to be able to say this at the end of my life.
Only thing I didn't like was Mila being cast as the lead chick. She just kind of cheapened the atmosphere of the movie for me. I know everyone will say she is hot but she just didn't fit the role for me, and her hotness was covered up with post-apocalypticness.
I could see that.
I really liked this movie. The movie has a lot of great lines like "No it's Johnny Cash live from Folsom Prison." I thought that was pretty funny. The ending was very powerful,imo. The scene where he tells Solara that he has been to caught up with doing his job, instead of doing what the book says really hit home. He says something along the lines of "To do more for others than you do for yourself".
The prayer at the end was powerful too. I hope to be able to say this at the end of my life.
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Dear Lord, Thank you for giving me the strength and the conviction to complete the task you entrusted to me. Thank you for guiding me straight and true through the many obstacles in my path. And for keeping me resolute when all around seemed lost. Thank you for your protection and your many signs along the way. Thank you for any good that I may have done, I'm so sorry about the bad. Thank you for the friend I made. Please watch over her as you watched over me. Thank you for finally allowing me to rest. I'm so very tired, but I go now to my rest at peace. I fought the good fight, I finished the race, I kept the faith.
Only thing I didn't like was Mila being cast as the lead chick. She just kind of cheapened the atmosphere of the movie for me. I know everyone will say she is hot but she just didn't fit the role for me, and her hotness was covered up with post-apocalypticness.
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BTW, to answer your OP, based off the comment by Solara about how bright he had the lamp in his room....that says to me that he isn't 100% blind.
In bright situations, he can see gross things, like that bikers are coming or that there is a person there when he is walking down the street (why he doesn't bump into anyone in that scene).
But details, like what they are wearing or what they look like? Maybe/probably not.
I could see that.
Posted on 6/15/10 at 1:41 pm to Archie Bengal Bunker
I still say it was pretty clear.
People call me a liar. I say I AM NOT A LIAR
People call me a liar. I say I AM NOT A LIAR
Posted on 6/15/10 at 1:47 pm to Lacour
He was not totally blind. He was going blind however. This was part of his urgency to get the book to where it belonged. In the final scene, I believe you can see his eyes finally fog over completely... can't you?
Posted on 6/15/10 at 1:53 pm to Archie Bengal Bunker
quote:This not about divine intervention. You wrote what it was about in his prayer...
I think it was a combination of divine intervention and increased senses.
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I finished the race, I kept the faith.
His faith granted him the will to succeed.
Posted on 6/15/10 at 1:58 pm to Lacour
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People call me a liar. I say I AM NOT A LIAR
Its not a lie, if you believe it.
-George Costanza
Posted on 6/15/10 at 3:41 pm to bomber77
Wow....I didn't catch the blind hints whatsoever when I watched it a couple weeks ago. Matter of fact, it never even crossed my mind until reading this thread today. Of course the quality wasn't the greatest so that may be why. Anyway, I thought this was just an ok movie but now want to watch it again to really appreciate the twist.
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