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re: Blade Runner 2049 is officially a flop

Posted on 10/16/17 at 8:49 pm to
Posted by saintsfan92612
Taiwan
Member since Oct 2008
30435 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 8:49 pm to
Brazil was such a strange fricking movie...I guess almost every movie on that list is.
Posted by tiderider
Member since Nov 2012
7703 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 8:52 pm to
lol ... there was zero chance it would be a blockbuster hit ... release dates? ... marketing? ... the original blade runner, as highly respected as it is, still isn't all that popular ... i actually applaud the studio for making the sequel and spending the bucks they did ... it was a no win situation all the way around, money wise ... $150 million on a sequel to a misunderstood/little noticed film? ... that's still a lot of money, even for today ... and they did a decent job of it ... i stand by my original opinion that they were a bit too blunt with some aspects of the story and had one too many nods to the original, but there are some scenes that will garner admiration down the road ... and the visuals/mood/soundtrack are fabulous ...
Posted by Gopher Rick
Atlanta
Member since May 2017
741 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 12:14 am to
The flop that burns twice as bright makes half as much
Posted by GetEmTigers08
Mississippi
Member since Dec 2007
1242 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 5:09 am to
It really doesn't surprise me, even though I had hoped it would do well.

I've come to realize that marketing makes or breaks a movie. The power to get people to watch a movie is almost all done by marketing these days. When a studio decides not to spend much money marketing a movie, because they know it's a shitty movie, that's understandable. But they aren't allowed to "be surprised" when they don't.

It also depends on main audience of the director's movies. Nolan movies are typically for people who like great, yet smart movies. So, marketing can get away with less advertising for his movie, as long as they reach the intended audience. Word of mouth usually pulls a lot of weight when it comes to Nolan movies. Look at Interstellar and Dunkirk for great examples of this.

Villeneuve makes smart, great movies too, but he has nowhere close to the name and set list that Nolan has. So, with his lesser known name, and not enough marketing for a movie that cost as much as 2049 to make, it all ends up being a dud.
This post was edited on 10/17/17 at 5:16 am
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 6:35 am to
I hope this means they’ll at least release it on home video sooner. Really want this film in my collection.
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 7:50 am to
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The bitching about Leto is ridiculous. The dude was in the movie for like five minutes.


I fricking despise Leto because he’s a total dirtbag, but I didn’t let that stop me from seeing Blade Runner. Like you said, he’s in a few scenes that total amount to a few minutes in an otherwise amazing film, the best this year for me (we’ll see if it holds it when Star Wars comes out)

Blade Runner 2049 definitely reminded me of Mad Max Fury Road, a successful sequel to an 80s franchise that’s on par with the original great film (Road Warrior) or even better. Remakes like Robocop and Total Recall failed in this regard.
This post was edited on 10/17/17 at 7:52 am
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 7:55 am to
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I hope this means they’ll at least release it on home video sooner


I hope so too, but I haven't heard someone mention the term "home video" in years. That's awesome.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95579 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 2:31 pm to
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I haven't heard someone mention the term "home video" in years. That's awesome.


Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38656 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 2:36 pm to
I question the exec that thought BR 2049 was worth investing $150 million in. The original, however well loved, is loved truly by a handful of people. The movie is dense, slow, noir outside of the noir prime.

2049 was quite good, but I could have told you that's its popular appeal is far below that of something like Alien, which has had persistent appeal in culture through a variety of sources. BR as a property was abandoned for decades.

Now, I'm glad the film was made, and I will own it, but I in know way would have ever though it would be a half billion dollar property.

I would have said the take would be something like The Arrival - $205 million or so - plus a little based on the popularity of the property.
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7783 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 4:20 pm to
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It'll be lucky to reach $100 million in the U.S. on a $150 million budget.


It's already at $62,415,066 Domestic and $95,580,774 Foreign, Total =$157,995,840
LINK
Posted by jg8623
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
13533 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 4:23 pm to
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It's already at $62,415,066 Domestic and $95,580,774 Foreign, Total =$157,995,840
LINK


And that’s not good
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
33638 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 4:27 pm to
i believe the rule of thumb is it needs to make double its budget back to be profitable.
Posted by JW
Los Angeles
Member since Jul 2004
5249 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 5:05 pm to
apparently insiders are saying net was $155M Then another $50M on P+A .... so it will likely turn some sort of profit, but obviously not be a big hit.

This post was edited on 10/17/17 at 5:07 pm
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 5:09 pm to
I want to see this movie.

I understand that it takes place 30 years after the first film. Do I really need to see that movie so I can understand 2049 better?
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38656 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 5:13 pm to
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I understand that it takes place 30 years after the first film. Do I really need to see that movie so I can understand 2049 better?


It would help your experience, yes.
Posted by JakeFromStateFarm
*wears khakis
Member since Jun 2012
13057 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 11:28 pm to
I finally went and saw it tonight and was blown away. fricking great movie. Shame it didn’t make more money.
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 10/21/17 at 12:03 am to
You do not need to see the first film
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 10/21/17 at 12:14 am to
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You do not need to see the first film



I just saw Blade Runner 2049 tonight. Never seen the first one. I enjoyed this movie(even though it seemed a little too long imo) and now will go watch the first one.
Posted by Cap Crunch
Fire Alleva
Member since Dec 2010
54189 posts
Posted on 10/21/17 at 12:37 am to
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I understand that it takes place 30 years after the first film. Do I really need to see that movie so I can understand 2049 better?

You don't need to, but I'd recommend that you see the original and watch the shorts released that cover some of the stuff between the two movies. They are all on youtube and total they are about 30 minutes.

I'd only seen the theatrical version once, so I watched the final cut over the weekend and the shorts before seeing 2049 on Tuesday. I'd say it enhanced the viewing experience.

And for this being a flop, the theater was very full for a Tuesday night.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 10/21/17 at 12:42 am to
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Blade Runner 1982
Brazil
Dark City
John Carter was fricking great
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