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re: Betty Boop has been cast in new film collab with creator’s family. Take one guess.
Posted on 5/22/26 at 1:24 pm to Adam Banks
Posted on 5/22/26 at 1:24 pm to Adam Banks
That is Baby Esther Jones
Posted on 5/22/26 at 1:25 pm to Adam Banks
She shared the same booking agent as Helen Kane haha maybe thats how it got linked. This is the actual inspiration for betty boop

This post was edited on 5/22/26 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 5/22/26 at 1:33 pm to Roaad
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That is Baby Esther Jones
I’ve seen that picture attributed to both of them.
Here’s another two pictures of Esther jones
Here’s Helen Kane
One more closely resembles Betty boop to me.
Whatever it’s a cartoon character
This post was edited on 5/22/26 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 5/22/26 at 1:36 pm to sgallo3
Helen Kane saw Esther and adopted her look, baby talk, and scatting style
That's why Helen lost her case against fleishmann.
That's why Helen lost her case against fleishmann.
This post was edited on 5/22/26 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 5/22/26 at 1:37 pm to Roaad
The picture you posted is of a Russian model from a series taken in 2008. It is not of Baby Esther.
This photo is also NOT Esther Jones. Esther Jones was a child. There are no known photos of her as an adult.
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Betty Boop's appearance was modeled after Helen Kane. If you want to argue whether or not Helen Kane stole her persona and singing style from black Jazz singers, such as Esther Jones, that is another debate.
But the debate on who Betty Boop was modeled after isn't really a controversy.
This photo is also NOT Esther Jones. Esther Jones was a child. There are no known photos of her as an adult.
> Betty Boop's appearance was modeled after Helen Kane. If you want to argue whether or not Helen Kane stole her persona and singing style from black Jazz singers, such as Esther Jones, that is another debate.
But the debate on who Betty Boop was modeled after isn't really a controversy.
Posted on 5/22/26 at 1:39 pm to Adam Banks
lol this is quite the rabbit hole
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In 1932, Kane sued Fleischer Studios and Paramount, claiming they stole her voice and likeness. During the trial, the studio successfully proved Kane had based her own persona on Baby Esther, and the judge dismissed the lawsuit.
Posted on 5/22/26 at 1:40 pm to Salmon
If that's true, I stand corrected.
Every picture I used was listed as Ms Jones.
And Kane got her act from watching Esther
Every picture I used was listed as Ms Jones.
And Kane got her act from watching Esther
Posted on 5/22/26 at 1:43 pm to Roaad
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And Kane got her act from watching Esther
Even this is debated. But again, this was the 1930s.
But I think the overall point in all of this is that there is enough debate and unknown surrounding the Betty Boop character and her link to jazz at the time, that a movie depicting the character and her origins as black really shouldn't be the cause for a meltdown.
Posted on 5/22/26 at 1:46 pm to sgallo3
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lol this is quite the rabbit hole
Yeah
Posted on 5/22/26 at 1:46 pm to Salmon
I just want it to be a better looking person than the fat chick from Abbott Elementary.
Unless she is played as a child. . .then I revoke all expectations.

Unless she is played as a child. . .then I revoke all expectations.
Posted on 5/22/26 at 4:53 pm to Fun Bunch
Since this topic is still being hashed about, there are a few other things I could add to my previous post. When electric recordings overtook acoustic in 1925, that early technology sometimes rendered some female vocalists with a bit of an unnatural high-pitch, giving them a sort of 'little girl' sound. Recordings like Ruth Etting singing "Could I, I Certainly Could" or Jane Green doing "Honey Bunch," both in 1926, tend to have a bit of this, as do some things by the Ponce Sisters and such. At the same time, there was that aforementioned vo-do-do-de-o style, with lots of weird little 'ta-de-dah' and 'womp-a-domp-a-do' bits inflicting pop vocals, being thrown in everywhere. It was in the soup at that time, and by early 1928 Helen Kane came along took all this to its gimmicky limit.
It made her a huge household name. My grandparents often mentioned her. Kane rode that fame into movies, and had important supporting roles in major Paramount films, like "Sweetie" (1929), "Painted Heels" (1929), and the "Paramount on Parade" (1930) revue. I've seen all these, along with the rather awful comedy "Dangerous Nan McGrew" (1930) that actually gave Kane the spotlight. Kane was influencing a lot of girl singers/actresses in that early-talkie period, with her over-emotive, baby-girl style, like Marjorie White, Jeanie Lang, and even Dorothy Lee. You encounter it a lot in those first movie musicals. Not surprisingly, the novelty wore thin very quickly and disappeared.
Helen Kane was a hugely-known cultural commodity at that time, a thousandfold more well-known than any imitators or practitioners of that whole baby-girl singing schtick. She owned it. And, frankly, it had pretty much run its course by 1930, when the Fleischers introduced Betty Boop to cartoons. That Fleischer animator who designed Betty stated directly that he used a photo of Kane on a piece of sheet-music to guide him. When Kane's career had bottomed out, and she sued the studio, the big studio lawyers did their job, muddying the waters and denying Kane was an influence. But just the casual historical knowledge of those pop-culture trends back then informs the obviousness of Kane being the overwhelming influence on Betty Boop.
It made her a huge household name. My grandparents often mentioned her. Kane rode that fame into movies, and had important supporting roles in major Paramount films, like "Sweetie" (1929), "Painted Heels" (1929), and the "Paramount on Parade" (1930) revue. I've seen all these, along with the rather awful comedy "Dangerous Nan McGrew" (1930) that actually gave Kane the spotlight. Kane was influencing a lot of girl singers/actresses in that early-talkie period, with her over-emotive, baby-girl style, like Marjorie White, Jeanie Lang, and even Dorothy Lee. You encounter it a lot in those first movie musicals. Not surprisingly, the novelty wore thin very quickly and disappeared.
Helen Kane was a hugely-known cultural commodity at that time, a thousandfold more well-known than any imitators or practitioners of that whole baby-girl singing schtick. She owned it. And, frankly, it had pretty much run its course by 1930, when the Fleischers introduced Betty Boop to cartoons. That Fleischer animator who designed Betty stated directly that he used a photo of Kane on a piece of sheet-music to guide him. When Kane's career had bottomed out, and she sued the studio, the big studio lawyers did their job, muddying the waters and denying Kane was an influence. But just the casual historical knowledge of those pop-culture trends back then informs the obviousness of Kane being the overwhelming influence on Betty Boop.
This post was edited on 5/22/26 at 4:55 pm
Posted on 5/22/26 at 7:19 pm to Fun Bunch
This can't be true. If so this movie will bomb so bad.
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