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re: Best to worst characters on “The Office”

Posted on 8/28/23 at 12:58 pm to
Posted by Demonbengal
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Posted on 8/28/23 at 12:58 pm to
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I hate Nellie, Jim, and Pam, Idris Elba's character.


Agree. I normally like Elba, but not in The Office.
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 8/28/23 at 1:37 pm to
Best - Kevin
Worst - Kelly



I really wish the office had done a series finale like St. Elsewhere, and the entire office's existence had been in Kevin's imagination.


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This post was edited on 8/28/23 at 1:41 pm
Posted by McGruff21
Member since Aug 2023
372 posts
Posted on 8/28/23 at 9:16 pm to
Yes because I like subtle funny sarcastic comedy. The kind that the peripheral characters usually partook in.

Michael was a clown. “Look at Michael, he’s so stupid” in a series that was supposed to be a realistic docuseries always felt out of place. I think the storylines with Dwight or Jim playing off of a female boss in Jan, or the cattiness between Jan, Angela, Pam would be more realistic comedy.

I only watched the first 4 seasons bc the Michael is an idiot, Jim/Pam sap fest turned me off
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 8/28/23 at 9:27 pm to
Pam is usually pretty low, though she does have a couple of really great moments with Michael. The art gallery episode is pretty touching.
Posted by EthanHunt007
Member since Aug 2023
1171 posts
Posted on 8/29/23 at 2:01 am to
"we usually fast forward heavy Robert California episodes."

Even the dinner party episode? That one was gold lol
Posted by Jon A thon
Member since May 2019
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Posted on 8/29/23 at 7:58 am to
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Jim is pretty bad. He literally tortures a guy who obviously has Asperger's. The interaction with Dwight in "The Fire", when Dwight is listening to REM in his car, shows just how shitty Jim and Pam acted toward others.


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I don’t know man, I don’t see a lot of redeeming qualities in Pam outside of aesthetics. She’s engaged to Roy and openly flirting with Jim without concern so they turn Roy into an abuser as some type of justification. She is also quite the narcissist for being a damn receptionist at a struggling paper company. Then toss in her lack of support for Jim and messing around with the boom mic guy, I think Pam is pretty shitty.


Do people not understand that they have to put these characters in positions to create story lines? If they just go around acting like nice, kind people, you are going to miss out on all the funny.

When I think of worst characters, I think of characters that didn't bring anything to the show. One's that didn't click with the story line (see the revolving door of replacements for Mike). Not ones that I have some personal reason for not liking what they did in a fictitious office setting.
Posted by Jmcc64
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Member since Apr 2021
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Posted on 8/29/23 at 8:21 am to
AS Mcgruff wrote above, Michael was not a realistic portrayal. He was low IQ moron. could never make it to any position in any company. Funny? yes. The other characters have shreds of believability
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 8/29/23 at 10:05 am to
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Michael was not a realistic portrayal


It's a comedy TV show. If they wanted it to be as super hyper-realistic as possible it wouldn't be a show becuase workign in an office for a paper supply company would be boring as all frick.

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could never make it to any position in any company.


One thing that was repeatedly shown time nad time again in the series was that Michael could absolutely be a great salesman, and many times woudl come through in the 11th hour to make a huge deal.

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The other characters have shreds of believability


I mean, some of them sure. Kevin being actually retarded and unable to put a couple coherent sentences together, yet he's somehow also 1)an accountant 2) a musician 3) a WSOP champion seems a biiiiit more unbelievable to me.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 8/29/23 at 11:34 am to
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One thing that was repeatedly shown time nad time again in the series was that Michael could absolutely be a great salesman, and many times woudl come through in the 11th hour to make a huge deal.

This is correct.

There were definitely times when they made Michael out to be too silly/stupid/inept. shite like tube city with the hamsters or him taking literal directions from the GPS and driving into the lake (which was the most egregious and by far the worst thing they did with Michael) are good examples of that.

But there were also times when he would flash brilliance and knock it out of the park. Like when he stole Dwight's client out from under him with the Michael Scott Paper Company, or how he negotiated their jobs back from David Wallace ("I don't think I have to wait out Dunder Mifflin; I think I just have to wait out you."). Or closing the deal with Tim Meadows in early seasons at Chili's. Or when he closed the deal with Hammermill when josh thought they were exclusive with Staples (maybe next time Jan will estimate him?). Let's not forget that Scranton was always their "most profitable branch" under his management too, so much so that the company sent him on the road to train and teach other branches how to be successful.

Here is a montage of a lot of those things with him being really good at his job.

So yeah, Michael was an idiot sometimes. But that was mostly him being silly and trying too hard. But when push came to shove he actually was a pretty good boss/leader and you could see how he made it that far in his career.
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I mean, some of them sure. Kevin being actually retarded and unable to put a couple coherent sentences together, yet he's somehow also 1)an accountant 2) a musician 3) a WSOP champion seems a biiiiit more unbelievable to me.

They ruined Kevin. It was funny when he was sort of slow, but also sharp on things (like winning a WSOP bracelet and being a good gambler). One of the best things they did was pranking Holly into thinking he was retarded, because not knowing him it would be sort of believable. But then they swung too far and made him actually retarded too often.


As for best and worst characters. For me it's Deangelo Vickers as the worst by far. But if he doesn't count because he wasn't around long enough, I'll choose Nellie. The best is likely Michael, but Gabe has to be up there. That character was so great.

I don't get the Robert California hate. He was an outstanding character, and he helped rebound from the awfulness that was Deangelo.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30332 posts
Posted on 8/29/23 at 10:08 pm to
Michael Scott


Dwight Schrute






Jim/Pam

people who were generally good every time they had screen time:
Jan
Oscar
Meredith
Creed
Darryl with Michael
Kevin
Packer
Toby
Andy with Michael
Angela

People who were decent:
Stanley
Phyllis
Gabe
Bob Vance
Charles Minor


Mostly terrible:
Ryan
Kelly
Holly
Andy without Michael
Darryl without Michael
Erin
Robert California
David Wallace
Jo Bennet
Karen
Roy, although he had a nice arc for a very minor character.


Shouldn’t have been on the show:
Nellie
Will Ferrell

Posted by BCLA
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Member since Mar 2005
9057 posts
Posted on 8/29/23 at 10:16 pm to
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They ruined Kevin. It was funny when he was sort of slow, but also sharp on things (like winning a WSOP bracelet and being a good gambler). One of the best things they did was pranking Holly into thinking he was retarded, because not knowing him it would be sort of believable. But then they swung too far and made him actually retarded too often.




Michaels last scene with Kevin "Don't be a caricature"

Then they did exactly just that. One of the few things I hated about the show.
This post was edited on 8/29/23 at 10:17 pm
Posted by schatman
Montana
Member since Nov 2018
2958 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 9:04 am to
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Andy was okay but it feels like he got way too much attention


This.
He was good in small doses ala Dwight and Creed. The worst thing that happened was that Ed Helms hit it big with The Hangover.
Posted by parrotdr
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Member since Oct 2003
7862 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 11:46 am to
Best--1. Dwight
1a. Jim and Dwight

Worst--Andy. Can't stand to watch any episode featuring him,
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