re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice Tomato watch 29%

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emotionally tied to DC

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I am.

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Right...I am too in that sense. DC has always been my favorite, so I've wanted them to get all this right since Marvel got their shite together with the MCU.

What I meant though was more tied to the movie personally... Something more heavily involved than simply being a fan...even a life-long one.

Just got my tickets for 6:45 tonight. NO RAGRETS

Affleck isn't helping things. He just made this movie political and you can guess in which direction:

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"(The screenwriters) had many conversations about politics and the nature of politics in movies," he said. "This is a movie that has a substance to it ( ) ... and is provocative. I don’t think it’s strident, I don’t think it’s preachy, but I think it does raise the question of, ‘What happens to us when we become afraid of one another?’ which is a very current theme. It doesn’t mean to lecture at you or to hector you, but I do think that it’s a ballsy movie and evocative, and a movie that isn’t just about two cartoon characters slugging it out."

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DON'T BE AFRAID OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS *cough cough* err... ALIENS FROM KRYPTON. UNDERSTAND THEM FIRST!!!

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Does anyone really care about this?

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I don't think people "really," care but it's part of talking about film - how people perceive something. And when you have a film with the cultural value of a Superman AND Batman, it is viable to take a look at how "we," culture, receive the film.

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Look...I have no idea how good this movie will ultimately be...to me, and honestly that's the only thing anyone should actually care about. Do YOU enjoy the movie? Unless you are financially or emotionally tied to the film in some way, the only reason I could see worrying about what everyone else seems to think about it is if the movie ultimately does so badly that they scrap the whole enterprise and shelve what could be a really fun ride with some of comic's most iconic characters. Or...do you only feel comfortable liking what everyone else also likes? Never mind...any cursory look at this or the OT where it's nonstop asking what others think about every decision they make answers this question.

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Of course, at the most basic level I only care about whether I enjoy the movie or not, however, that feeling of enjoyment bears no weight for discussion, for someone else's enjoyment, for anything, that's personal. There are plenty of films with lower scores than BvS that I enjoy, and I may yet enjoy BvS, however, that is insignificant in any discussion/interpretation/interaction outside of my viewing of the film itself.

In essence, if all we really cared about was whether or not we enjoyed a film, and that was the ONLY thing we cared about, there' be no such thing as this board, for discussion, or for critique. None. What would that kind of conversation look like?

"Did you enjoy the film?"
"Yes I did."
"Why?"
"Because I did."

End of story. If people wants this type of discussion, I just don't know what to say. The entire point of this process, of this board, is to engage in film discussion/critique/cultural analysis/etc. That's why we're here, so yes, the RT score, while it most likely won't stop MOST people in this thread from seeing the film, is important because it relates to how "we," as culture again, view and accept a film.

Throw in the idea of universe building, of characters with nearly 100 years of history, etc., and that's why we're doing this, that's why there's fervor over it.

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I personally don't go to movies (or listen to music, go to restaurants, etc) with the expectation of being disappointed and waiting for the event to change my mind. That seems ultimately like a recipe for being pissed most of the time. Oddly, I like being entertained, so as long as the movie does that in any real way...boom, I'm happy. The way guys are yapping about the reviews of this movie you'd think people look forward to being upset more than happy...

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I mean I agree 100% but my happiness only matters to me, but I do think it's at the core of some disagreements on discussion. Just because we're happy actually means absolutely nothing. You may like Uwe Boll films, but when talking about films, they aren't "good," no matter how happy they make you. Quality and Enjoyment are two completely separate things when engaging in a discussion outside of yourself.

First pic of Wonder Woman's amazon women

ok look, those Amazonians look curiously like the Spartans from 300.

Fair point

I could have sworn he was. Oh well.

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Just got out of an early screening. To say I didn't like Man Of Steel is an understatement, but I thought this movie was pretty good. Affleck was a nice change of pace from Bale's batman, Eisenberg played a really crazy Luthor. I thought it set up pretty well for Justice League. I'd give it an 8/10.....fun popcorn flick to enjoy

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Lol. You could say the same things if you never watched the movie but only the trailers almost. This is a fanboy review I assume.
Eisenberg is exactly that in the trailers, and obviously Affleck would have to be different than the Nolan version. It's not a credit if he is different IMO, because it would be useless if he was the same.

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In essence, if all we really cared about was whether or not we enjoyed a film, and that was the ONLY thing we cared about, there' be no such thing as this board, for discussion, or for critique. None. What would that kind of conversation look like?

"Did you enjoy the film?"
"Yes I did."
"Why?"
"Because I did."

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I'd agree entirely...if we'd seen the movie. We haven't and yet we're discussing it as if we have and have all come to the same conclusion. After the weekend and those of us that are interested in it have seen it, then yeah...I'm on board, because at that point we'll actually have something (the actual movie in this case) to dissect.

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I mean I agree 100% but my happiness only matters to me, but I do think it's at the core of some disagreements on discussion. Just because we're happy actually means absolutely nothing. You may like Uwe Boll films, but when talking about films, they aren't "good," no matter how happy they make you. Quality and Enjoyment are two completely separate things when engaging in a discussion outside of yourself.

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I guess what I'm saying is that I prefer my style of entertainment consumption to say, our board pal Carson who seemingly fricking hates everything! I'm happy to pull apart things, but deep down I tend to find some enjoyment in most things I invest time in. I guess it's a bit Pollyanna but I swear I'm happier because of it.