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re: Avengers Infinity War RT Score - 84% & Box Office Watch - Crossing 2 Billion Today
Posted on 4/30/18 at 12:16 pm to RLDSC FAN
Posted on 4/30/18 at 12:16 pm to RLDSC FAN
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I'm seeing a lot of these bloggers saying it's too long and too much going on. I'm interested to see what the "top critics" think of it.
I give zero shits what bloggers or "top critics" think. The value of a movie to the movie-goer is subjective. IW delivered everything I wanted and more. Hell, I would have in the theater another 30-45 minutes if the movie was any longer than it already was. That let's me know all I need to know about IW.
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Posted on 4/30/18 at 12:25 pm to Jyrdis
Every time I glanced at my watch and realized how much time had passed I would get bummed out, I didn't want it to end 
This post was edited on 4/30/18 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 4/30/18 at 2:23 pm to LittleJerrySeinfield
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Don't think 3D would add anything to it.
How about another dimension?
Posted on 4/30/18 at 2:57 pm to Freauxzen
quote:I don't think the other movies will hurt it.
Both deadpool and Solo are trending for huge opening weekends, Marvel was very smart moving it up a week. There's nothing until deadpool in a few weeks. It's going to clean up until then.
I think it gets to $700 million or. That's two huge properties to take away from it. I don't think it hits $800.
Solo might legit bomb. The huge Star Wars bump was for TFA, since we'd been waiting forever for a new SW movie. That trilogy is heading towards "meh" now, so I don't think the brand is going to help that much. Plus, it's a damn origin tale- we know Han, Chewy and Lando live. This might be heading towards "skip the theater, catch it on DVD" territory.
Deadpool 2- thinking it's overestimated too.
I bet a lot of soccer moms said "hmm, a Marvel comic superhero, like Spiderman, X Men, Avengers, ok I'll pack the kids into the minivan and take them", ignored the rating, and then had to deal with dick jokes.
You lose that audience.
And then, regarding word of mouth- the appeal was on how shocking and fresh it was on an adolescent humor level. If it merely equals the first one, it isn't fresh. If it doesn't match up, it's going to be viewed as lame and stale.
If it tries to play straight, then Deadpool is just a Wolverine-type guy who doesn't die, but lacks any super powers. Which coming on the heels of IW, isn't that big a "must see".
Everyone's hoping it's got Austin Powers-type legs, that you can run a couple movies on before the gags get old; but there are far more misses than hits on sequels of that type of film.
Posted on 4/30/18 at 3:31 pm to Scoob
Solo and Deadpool will do fine. We're not at the saturation point for Star Wars yet. There's been no outrage from parents over Deadpool 1. D2 should do alright.
Posted on 4/30/18 at 3:46 pm to Fewer Kilometers
Solo will bomb, relatively speaking
Posted on 4/30/18 at 3:49 pm to 13SaintTiger
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Solo will bomb, relatively speaking
Relative to what? If it doesn't do Force Awakens money or not doing Rogue One money?
Posted on 4/30/18 at 3:59 pm to VanRIch
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Don't think 3D would add anything to it.
How about another dimension?
Posted on 4/30/18 at 4:00 pm to ell_13
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A huge demographic for the MCU is 14-25 year olds. And a large portion of that group is in school and can drive. That's all I'm saying.
Is it? that's not what i saw in my theater.
When you make $2B on a movie, i'd say you attracted just about everyone.
Posted on 4/30/18 at 4:01 pm to Scoob
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Plus, it's a damn origin tale- we know Han, Chewy and Lando live.
I don't underrated why people say things like this. How many action movies does the hero ever die in? Like 2%?
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If it tries to play straight, then Deadpool is just a Wolverine-type guy who doesn't die, but lacks any super powers. Which coming on the heels of IW, isn't that big a "must see".
The guy can't die, regenerates body parts, can do all kinds of crazy martial arts due to his ability to heal but you say he has no super powers?
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Everyone's hoping it's got Austin Powers-type legs, that you can run a couple movies on before the gags get old; but there are far more misses than hits on sequels of that type of film.
People got tired of Austin Powers b/c the scripts got noticeably worse, Myers portrayal became grating, and they leaned far too heavily on gross out humor by the 3rd movie.
This post was edited on 4/30/18 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 4/30/18 at 4:04 pm to Dr RC
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I don't underrated why people say things like this. How many action movies does the hero ever die in? Like 2%?
There's like some large cultural problem behind this that I can't figure it out. I said it in the review thread, but I find it funny that viewers are requiring sacrifice for purpose. It's....maybe a little scary. Or revealing?
Death, seemingly, has greater meaning now, yet secular culture is also fascinated with immortality via tech. Not for this thread, but I'd love to hash this out.
Posted on 4/30/18 at 4:06 pm to Freauxzen
Hell even in the Bible the hero’s death is only temporary
Posted on 4/30/18 at 4:14 pm to Fewer Kilometers
Deadpool will do just fine. I don’t see Solo making a ton of money at all with better options like Infinity War and DP2 out
Posted on 4/30/18 at 4:26 pm to WicKed WayZ
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I don’t see Solo making a ton of money at all with better options like Infinity War and DP2 out
It's trending for a big opening weekend. The last trailer was very well received. Demand for SW films is still there.
Posted on 4/30/18 at 5:07 pm to Freauxzen
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Plus, it's a damn origin tale- we know Han, Chewy and Lando live.
I don't underrated why people say things like this. How many action movies does the hero ever die in? Like 2%?
quote:Y'all missing my point.
There's like some large cultural problem behind this that I can't figure it out. I said it in the review thread, but I find it funny that viewers are requiring sacrifice for purpose. It's....maybe a little scary. Or revealing?
Death, seemingly, has greater meaning now, yet secular culture is also fascinated with immortality via tech. Not for this thread, but I'd love to hash this out.
You DON'T have to have death in an action movie. But you need some credible danger. Nobody expects James Bond to ever die in his movies as they come out, but each one is a new story, and it's a possibility.
Han Solo a decade or so before Star Wars- no credible danger. You absolutely 100% know for a fact that he lives, because... he lives. Because we have seen this already proven as fact. He doesn't die, until he gets old, then is killed by his own son.
The SW prequels had this same problem with Obi Wan and the rest, but at least had the "rise of the Empire" story to push it, and it still seemed boring and safe.
It's not a matter of being edgy and cool (killing off people randomly), it's the fact that at least it's possible the hero is in danger.
Posted on 4/30/18 at 6:48 pm to Scoob
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You DON'T have to have death in an action movie. But you need some credible danger. Nobody expects James Bond to ever die in his movies as they come out, but each one is a new story, and it's a possibility.
No. It's NEVER a possibility that Bond will die.
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Han Solo a decade or so before Star Wars- no credible danger. You absolutely 100% know for a fact that he lives, because... he lives. Because we have seen this already proven as fact. He doesn't die, until he gets old, then is killed by his own son.
How can you say there is no credible danger when you don't even know what the movie is about? Also, why does there need to be the danger of death for the main character for it to be a worthwhile story?
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Han Solo a decade or so before Star Wars- no credible danger. You absolutely 100% know for a fact that he lives, because... he lives. Because we have seen this already proven as fact. He doesn't die, until he gets old, then is killed by his own son.
I knew in Batman, Iron-Man, Thor, Blade, Green Lantern, and just about every single superhero movie I've ever seen that the hero wasn't going to die.
One of the few where I thought it might happen (Superman in BvS once it was revealed Doomsday was in it) was so wholly unearned and forced that it completely cut any emotional impact out of it.
I have also never gone into a buddy cop movie thinking the hero would die. I was never worried once about Eddie Murphy in anything he starred in. Never once worried about Bruce Willis, or Arnold, or Sly, or JCVD, or any other action hero from the 80s-90s.
At no point during Lethal Weapon 2 did I think Gibson and/or Glover were going to bite it when Murtaugh was sitting on a toilet w/a bomb under it.
Again, how many action movies actually kill the lead hero? The list is very small. I can only think of two movies from action stars or action franchises off the top of my head that do it and Schwarzenegger dying doesn't make End of Days any better while in T2 it's obvious he doesn't need to be dead forever b/c he's essentially a reprogrammed robot clone.
Hell, it's such a trope that Last Action Hero makes fun of it when the kid realizes he is the plucky comic relief rather than the star which is one of the few things that can put your life at risk in an action movie.
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It's not a matter of being edgy and cool (killing off people randomly), it's the fact that at least it's possible the hero is in danger.
Do you really think that Eddie Murphy might die in Beverly Hills Cop? Did you really think Bruce Willis might die in Die Hard? Did you really think Bond might die in any of the Bond movies?
This post was edited on 4/30/18 at 7:19 pm
Posted on 4/30/18 at 6:55 pm to Scoob
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You DON'T have to have death in an action movie. But you need some credible danger. Nobody expects James Bond to ever die in his movies as they come out, but each one is a new story, and it's a possibility.
This is just objectively not true.
Posted on 4/30/18 at 7:15 pm to Dr RC
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Dr RC
Except there was a much better gif to use given the thread topic
Posted on 4/30/18 at 7:17 pm to Freauxzen
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Freauxzen
It burns me to have come so close to posting the perfect gif.
Posted on 4/30/18 at 7:18 pm to Dr RC
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