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re: Avatar: The Legend of Korra Season Long Thread
Posted on 6/23/12 at 8:45 pm to jacks40
Posted on 6/23/12 at 8:45 pm to jacks40
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I keep getting distracted by the parachutes that had to pop out every time a plane got taken out, thought about making a drinking game out if it.
I especially got distracted when Zuko's grandson hit that bomb from above him. That would without question kill the person in the plane. No possible survival.
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Posted on 6/23/12 at 8:46 pm to TigerinOkieHell
You might be being a bit too hard on the show as you said. It is on Nickelodeon after all.
Posted on 6/23/12 at 8:51 pm to PsychTiger
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You might be being a bit too hard on the show as you said. It is on Nickelodeon after all.
Could be. I mean the series was by no means a bad one. I just wish they'd done it differently instead of just rushing the ending.
Posted on 6/23/12 at 9:17 pm to TigerinOkieHell
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Could be. I mean the series was by no means a bad one. I just wish they'd done it differently instead of just rushing the ending.
Well we got another season ahead of us.
Posted on 6/23/12 at 9:38 pm to OMLandshark
Does anyone else think that Korra went to that cliffside at the end of the episode to kill herself? It probably definitely crossed her mind that the world still needs an Avatar and that there couldn't be another one unless she died. She was definitely looking over it when the tear fell down. Yeah she couldn't go through with it, but I do think that's what the scene was implying.
Posted on 6/23/12 at 9:44 pm to OMLandshark
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Well we got another season ahead of us.
Yeah...but what the heck is going to happen? Now they have to make a whole new problem. I'm not sure how they're going to make it really bad if Korra has all the avatar powers now. My wish of seeing the avatar world burn in the flames of war like the original again seems shot.
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Does anyone else think that Korra went to that cliffside at the end of the episode to kill herself? It probably definitely crossed her mind that the world still needs an Avatar and that there couldn't be another one unless she died. She was definitely looking over it when the tear fell down. Yeah she couldn't go through with it, but I do think that's what the scene was implying.
Yeah I think she was too. That was where I was hoping Aang would tell her there was hope and that she could find a way to rediscover her powers, rather then just give them to her.
This post was edited on 6/23/12 at 9:45 pm
Posted on 6/23/12 at 10:21 pm to TigerinOkieHell
Suicide doesn't seem very spiritual.
Posted on 6/23/12 at 10:23 pm to CC
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Suicide doesn't seem very spiritual.
Depends. If she really couldn't get her powers back, then in theory you could argue it would be better for her to die, so the cycle can restart and a pure avatar unaffected by Amon's work can be born.
Posted on 6/23/12 at 10:23 pm to CC
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Suicide doesn't seem very spiritual.
Aang said that when an Avatar reaches their lowest point that they are more open to their past lives. Almost committing suicide is certainly the lowest point most people are capable of committing.
Posted on 6/24/12 at 12:59 am to OMLandshark
So at the end of the season, who are yall's top 5 characters, episodes, and how would you rate each season of Avatar?
Characters:
1) Lin Beifong
2) Korra
3) Tenzin
4) Tarlok
5) Bolin
Episodes:
1) Turning of the Tides (Ep 10)
2) When Extremes Meet (Ep 8)
3) Skeletons in the Closet (Ep 11)
4) Welcome to Republic City (Ep 1)
5) Endgame (Ep 12)
Seasons:
1) Air
2) Earth
3) Fire
4) Water
Characters:
1) Lin Beifong
2) Korra
3) Tenzin
4) Tarlok
5) Bolin
Episodes:
1) Turning of the Tides (Ep 10)
2) When Extremes Meet (Ep 8)
3) Skeletons in the Closet (Ep 11)
4) Welcome to Republic City (Ep 1)
5) Endgame (Ep 12)
Seasons:
1) Air
2) Earth
3) Fire
4) Water
This post was edited on 6/24/12 at 2:01 am
Posted on 6/24/12 at 1:20 am to OMLandshark
Unrelated to her mindset but could a Avatar committ suicide or would the Avatar state kick in?
Posted on 6/24/12 at 1:30 am to jacks40
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Unrelated to her mindset but could a Avatar committ suicide or would the Avatar state kick in?
I don't think so. If she doesn't want to self preserve herself, I don't see why her Avatar State would kick in.
EDIT: Does anyone else think that Korra may still only be able to bend air by herself? Hear me out: Aang didn't heal Korra, merely assisted her into getting into the Avatar State. The Avatar State allows you to use all the power from all your past lives, so therefore in the Avatar State Korra should still be able to bend her first three elements, but not outside of it. Thus it becomes more of a risk when she has to bend the other 3. So Korra can still Spirit and Airbend without the Avatar State,
This post was edited on 6/24/12 at 1:52 am
Posted on 6/24/12 at 3:51 am to OMLandshark
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So at the end of the season, who are yall's top 5 characters, episodes, and how would you rate each season of Avatar?
For Me:
Characters
1. Tenzin
2. Lin Beifong
3. Korra
4. Bolin
5. Tarlok
Seasons:
1. Fire
2. Air
3. Earth
4. Water
Posted on 6/24/12 at 3:54 am to OMLandshark
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Does anyone else think that Korra may still only be able to bend air by herself?
That would be pretty weird if they went all DEM to heal everyone else but not Korra herself. I can't see it. But I'd rather have a more interesting story than Korra running around trying to get her powers back. We already had that story with Aang and his avatar state in the last series.
Posted on 6/24/12 at 4:36 am to auyushu
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That would be pretty weird if they went all DEM to heal everyone else but not Korra herself. I can't see it. But I'd rather have a more interesting story than Korra running around trying to get her powers back. We already had that story with Aang and his avatar state in the last series.
Well the point is she'd never get them back. There's no other spiritbender that we know of besides the Avatar herself. I'm saying that she'll just have to be careful when she chooses to bend the other 3 elements. Like if she's just chilling I don't think she'll hesitate to use some bending when she needs it to go in the Avatar State, but in a battle she'll have to use it much more carefully.
Posted on 6/24/12 at 4:52 am to OMLandshark
Anyone else finding this series underwhelming? The setting, the characters, the plot...I'm just not feeling it. The Last Airbender was better in every respect, IMO. Hope season 2 gets better.
Posted on 6/24/12 at 5:10 am to OMLandshark
While at first I was against the idea that Amon was a bloodbender (although I knew it was completely feasible he was) due to the fact that I wanted parts of Amon's story to be true in the spirits giving him power and would be the hook for the next season, I am very glad it went down that way now.
His motivations to me make complete sense and he became a strong character. Amon sees that bending pretty much ruined his life and it brings out the absolute worst in everyone. The only thing he's learned is that bending should be used to terrorize and control the helpless. He feels cursed with his abilities, but becomes obsessed with what happened to his father, and more particularly, the Avatar himself.
He's fascinated by the Avatar's abilities and role in the world, especially his ability to take away bending. He seeks to emulate the Avatar in every way possible and bring balance to the world by removing bending in general. He eventually figures out how to emulate the Avatar's spiritbending, and his dream of a world without bending comes closer to reality. He figures that even benders will eventually come to thank him as he stomps corruption that bending has caused from the world. The problem I had with him being a bender was that he would likely just be the guy who wanted to be last man standing and then no one could stand up to him, but he fortunately isn't. He truly believes in his message and sees himself as the true successor to the Avatar.
Pretty much I see Amon as a darker version of Charles Foster Kane in many ways. Really all Amon wishes is that he was never cursed with his ability and that he could have remained happy in the Northern Water Tribe playing in the snow. In the end sure he's disapointed that the Avatar has undermined his entire regime and plan, but really I think Amon saw this as more his destiny to remove bending from the world, but that obviously now wasn't going to happen. Amon instead sees it as an opportunity to start over again and takes his brother with him to be a family once more. There's a reason for Amon shedding a tear when he's united with his brother; it's probably the happiest he's been in many years and feels that he can start over. Tarlok of course makes this brief moment of happiness come to an abrupt end. They both turned into very tragic characters and both made for great villains.
His motivations to me make complete sense and he became a strong character. Amon sees that bending pretty much ruined his life and it brings out the absolute worst in everyone. The only thing he's learned is that bending should be used to terrorize and control the helpless. He feels cursed with his abilities, but becomes obsessed with what happened to his father, and more particularly, the Avatar himself.
He's fascinated by the Avatar's abilities and role in the world, especially his ability to take away bending. He seeks to emulate the Avatar in every way possible and bring balance to the world by removing bending in general. He eventually figures out how to emulate the Avatar's spiritbending, and his dream of a world without bending comes closer to reality. He figures that even benders will eventually come to thank him as he stomps corruption that bending has caused from the world. The problem I had with him being a bender was that he would likely just be the guy who wanted to be last man standing and then no one could stand up to him, but he fortunately isn't. He truly believes in his message and sees himself as the true successor to the Avatar.
Pretty much I see Amon as a darker version of Charles Foster Kane in many ways. Really all Amon wishes is that he was never cursed with his ability and that he could have remained happy in the Northern Water Tribe playing in the snow. In the end sure he's disapointed that the Avatar has undermined his entire regime and plan, but really I think Amon saw this as more his destiny to remove bending from the world, but that obviously now wasn't going to happen. Amon instead sees it as an opportunity to start over again and takes his brother with him to be a family once more. There's a reason for Amon shedding a tear when he's united with his brother; it's probably the happiest he's been in many years and feels that he can start over. Tarlok of course makes this brief moment of happiness come to an abrupt end. They both turned into very tragic characters and both made for great villains.
Posted on 6/24/12 at 5:20 am to Tom288
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Anyone else finding this series underwhelming? The setting, the characters, the plot...I'm just not feeling it. The Last Airbender was better in every respect, IMO. Hope season 2 gets better.
It's just a much different scope and tone. This season was pretty much a 5 hour long film, not a series (unless you completely restructure the plot, it's unadaptable to the big screen). The characters I'll admit aren't as likable, but I still think Korra's best characters are still on par with TLA in terms of how interesting they are. Amon, Tarlok, and Lin are all great characters, but they're not particularly likable or quirky. Toph, Sokka, Katara, and even Azula are all quirky, funny, and likable. Korra is clearly more serious though and the comic relief character of Meelo stands out ridiculously, while I'm not sure if he would have stood out as much with the characters in the previous series.
The plot of TLA was nothing to write home about really. Its basically Star Wars set in Middle Earth in a Miyazaki setting and tone. But its not WHAT it's about, but HOW it's about, which TLA did magnificently. That being said, I think the plot to Korra is much stronger. It's not the stereotypical "take over the world" plot that we are very much accustomed to seeing. It's very complex and isn't as simple as beating the crap out of the big bad as it was in TLA. I really hope they follow up on the Equalist plot and change the government structure greatly, like double the size of the Council to include one bender and non-bender from each nation.
But the setting, sorry, but Republic City is superior since we don't really get attached to any one place in TLA. Republic City we do though. However this isn't a bad thing for TLA since it's a road show. Kinda hard to get attachment when you usually leave the setting within the next episode.
And from a fight, animation, and music standpoint, Korra is indisputably better.
And Mike and Bryan said they thought the first season of Korra was as good as the second season of TLA (which they and I think was the best season), and they say the second season of Korra blows the first season out of the water. The only bad thing is it will probably be another 2 years before it comes out. It takes a while to make it and it's by far the most expensive animated series per episode of all time.
This post was edited on 6/24/12 at 5:34 am
Posted on 6/24/12 at 5:31 am to Tom288
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Anyone else finding this series underwhelming? The setting, the characters, the plot...I'm just not feeling it. The Last Airbender was better in every respect, IMO. Hope season 2 gets better.
I wouldn't say underwhelming, but it definitely had uneven pacing and felt rushed. You are basically comparing one season of a new show to a show with three seasons and almost 60 episodes.
The biggest problem is just that there are too few episodes. Much like one of my other favorite shows in Game of Thrones, Legend of Korra could use 5-6 more episodes per season to flesh things out a bit more. I think the first season of Legend of Korra is better than the first season of The Last Airbender, but they really should have had the same 20 episodes for Legend of Korra that they did for the first season of The Last Airbender. Having a shorter run of episodes really screwed up the pacing and characterization, and made the ending feel super rushed.
One of the first series strengths was how well you got to know the characters with the side and filler episodes. Heck, I think almost all the major players in the first series are more interesting than any of the characters in Korra, and much of that is due to how little characterization we have. Hell, Tarlok was more fleshed out than any character outside of maybe Korra and Tenzin.
Posted on 6/24/12 at 5:45 am to auyushu
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The biggest problem is just that there are too few episodes. Much like one of my other favorite shows in Game of Thrones, Legend of Korra could use 5-6 more episodes per season to flesh things out a bit more. I think the first season of Legend of Korra is better than the first season of The Last Airbender, but they really should have had the same 20 episodes for Legend of Korra that they did for the first season of The Last Airbender. Having a shorter run of episodes really screwed up the pacing and characterization, and made the ending feel super rushed.
The problem with this is that the animation, fights, and music wouldn't be nearly as good. They've added more frames and increased the production value of each episode. If it went to 20 episodes, the animation and music would be on par with how they were in the original series. Plus I'm not sure where there was to much opportunity for filler, especially in the later half of the season.
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One of the first series strengths was how well you got to know the characters with the side and filler episodes. Heck, I think almost all the major players in the first series are more interesting than any of the characters in Korra, and much of that is due to how little characterization we have. Hell, Tarlok was more fleshed out than any character outside of maybe Korra and Tenzin.
To be honest I found most of the major characters to be very much carcatures at this point in TLA (although granted episode 12 was about the time they started getting more three dimensional in the original series). Korra was a fully realized character right when she burst through the wall thriving in her newly found Avatar abilities. Tenzin was developed over time, and Lin Beifong turned into a particularly strong character. And Tarlok is still technically a main character and had basically an entire episode dedicated to his backstory.
Mako, Bolin, and Asami though certainly need more development, because as much as I like Bolin, are kinda a piss poor Team Avatar right now. All the characters on the original team just complimented each other so well. Mako will just completely ignore characters for episodes at a time and be a huge a-hole. When Bolin comes storming in on Asami getting defeated by her father, it didn't have the same impact that it would say if it was Sokka and Toph in the same situation. Howver Lin sacrificing herself for Tenzin certainly got that reaction out of me. Team Avatar needs some work, but other than Team Avatar chemistry and Meelo, I'm very satisfied with how the characters have been handled.
And the creators have claimed that the second season should be far superior to the first. We've only been with these people for 12 episodes or less. We spent 60 episodes with the original gang. They did some character's very well, some not, but they've still got time to correct their mistake.
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