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at what point do you expect movies to at least follow logic?
Posted on 2/5/20 at 8:17 pm
Posted on 2/5/20 at 8:17 pm
i recently started getting frustrated by things in movies that just make no logical sense
the parts where there is always a vehicle waiting for them right where they need one to escape in "by coincidence"
and then the ones where they are fighting 20 bad guys with a 6 shooter but after shooting a few bad guys they walk right passed them and leave all the machine guns and extra ammo behind and must fight bare handed or with just a knife and kill 10 more bad guys to survive
at some point i find myself talking to the TV telling them grab the frickin machine gun you idiot
are movies getting more stupid with this shite or have they always done this and i never paid enough attention to notice?
the parts where there is always a vehicle waiting for them right where they need one to escape in "by coincidence"
and then the ones where they are fighting 20 bad guys with a 6 shooter but after shooting a few bad guys they walk right passed them and leave all the machine guns and extra ammo behind and must fight bare handed or with just a knife and kill 10 more bad guys to survive
at some point i find myself talking to the TV telling them grab the frickin machine gun you idiot
are movies getting more stupid with this shite or have they always done this and i never paid enough attention to notice?
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Posted on 2/5/20 at 8:19 pm to keakar
Those are typical action movie tropes. They've been that way since the 80s. If I'm watching an action movie all I care about is shooting and explosions.
Posted on 2/5/20 at 8:32 pm to keakar
The Last American Virgin (1982) did not go as I thought it would.
Posted on 2/5/20 at 9:03 pm to keakar
quote:the entire idea of a western shootout is, really, pretty stupid
are movies getting more stupid with this shite or have they always done this and i never paid enough attention to notice?
Why would you put yourself in a sitution where the other man can have a clean shot at you? Even if you hit him, if you don't kill him you're leaving yourself wide open.
The Gunfight at the OK Corral became celebrated b/c it was so unusual, and such a rare occurrence. And even that was not a "Classic" showdown, mana a mano in the street.
Billy The Kid, Jesse James, Wild Bill Hickok... None were killed in a showdown. In fact aside from one confrontation between Hickok and John Wesley Hardin (which ended w/o violence), there were very few if any showdowns IRL at all.
Posted on 2/5/20 at 9:25 pm to keakar
I always find it hilarious that almost everytime someone gets its in shoulder or just to the left or right of the chest and its treated as just a flesh wound.
Posted on 2/5/20 at 9:54 pm to keakar
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and then the ones where they are fighting 20 bad guys with a 6 shooter but after shooting a few bad guys they walk right passed them and leave all the machine guns and extra ammo behind and must fight bare handed or with just a knife and kill 10 more bad guys to survive
This. So much. I never fail to notice. 2 seconds later they always run out of ammo or some shite. Or they will show up unarmed then disarm/incapacitate bad guys and still leave the weapon
This post was edited on 2/5/20 at 9:55 pm
Posted on 2/5/20 at 10:28 pm to keakar
I’ve noticed a trend lately with law in moves where they nail some specific complex legal concept, then follow it up by absolutely butchering a simple legal concept.
Posted on 2/5/20 at 10:35 pm to ThuperThumpin
quote:Does hitting somebody with the butt of a gun just knock them out for a few moments? I mean, don't you risk killing them when you do that?
I always find it hilarious that almost everytime someone gets its in shoulder or just to the left or right of the chest and its treated as just a flesh wound.
Posted on 2/5/20 at 11:11 pm to keakar
I came across a video one time where they analyzed the beatings the wet bandits took in home alone 1 and 2. Those guys should have been dead several times over, but it didn’t take away from the fun of the movie.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 12:17 am to Kafka
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Does hitting somebody with the butt of a gun just knock them out for a few moments? I mean, don't you risk killing them when you do that?
Any blow that causes loss of consciousness puts the individual at serious risk of brain damage.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 5:39 am to keakar
I can't stand it when the good guys and/or the bad guys have guns and instead of taking cover and maintain some separation, they decide to close the distance just to get disarmed and have to fight hand to hand.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 6:33 am to keakar
I don’t know keakar but I search prime and netflix for movies to watch constantly and only about 15% of them are worth a damn.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 6:56 am to keakar
Watch some of the fight scenes in Arrow. There are a dozen armed bad guys trying to take down Green Arrow and instead of shooting at him, they go in at him one at a time not firing their weapon.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 6:57 am to keakar
Movies and TV shows have to at least follow their own logic.
When they break their own rules that have been set up in the show it gets frustrating.
When they break their own rules that have been set up in the show it gets frustrating.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 9:33 am to Sus-Scrofa
The line for me is when a movie is trying to be logical. If you’re already ridiculous, set in the future, then by all means be ridiculous. But I can’t stand when a movie is 99% logical and then in some cheap way to move or conclude the plot they have to add something that’s technologically impossible or not close cause they couldn’t figure out a way to make it work. Heist movies are guilty of this, like oceans 12, which obviously doesn’t try too hard to be accurate but when the entire plot is fine up to a holographic egg, it kinda ruins it.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 10:35 am to eiasjsf
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I can't stand it when the good guys and/or the bad guys have guns and instead of taking cover and maintain some separation, they decide to close the distance
As much as I love the movie Starship Troopers, THIS always drives me nuts.
They have high tech laser rifles and their tactic is to get in a line, on foot, 15 feet away from these killer bugs with 10 foot reach and then walk TOWARDS it as they fire.
I love the movie, for all it's cheesiness. But that always kills me.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 12:16 pm to TygerTyger
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their tactic is to get in a line, on foot, 15 feet away from these killer bugs with 10 foot reach and then walk TOWARDS it as they fire.
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But that always kills me.
No...that kills them. Zing!
On topic...I like the absurdity that has come with the Fast & Furious franchise, but that Letty catch scene in number 6 is ridiculous for all sorts of reasons.
"How did you know there would be this care here to break out fall?"
Posted on 2/6/20 at 1:43 pm to Brosef Stalin
My favorite action movie thing is the head twist they do that automatically kills someone. It's so reliable, they never really even have to check to make sure the guy is dead.
Please don't disturb my friend, he is dead tired.
Please don't disturb my friend, he is dead tired.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 4:01 pm to Brosef Stalin
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Those are typical action movie tropes. They've been that way since the 80s. If I'm watching an action movie all I care about is shooting and explosions.
Yeah.
Try counting how many rounds a gun holds in an 80s Arnold Schwarzenegger movie. The clip must be as long as he is tall.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 4:04 pm to Kafka
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Does hitting somebody with the butt of a gun just knock them out for a few moments?
Knocking a person out for a few moments is a Hollywood myth on its own. Anything more than a couple of seconds and the person will have brain damage, possibly die.
If a boxer was actually "knocked out" as in unconscious, and didn't get up immediately afterwards, they are rushing his arse to the hospital. No standing around and cheering while his brain hemorrhages.
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