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re: American Murder: The Family Next Door
Posted on 10/9/20 at 7:07 am to SPEEDY
Posted on 10/9/20 at 7:07 am to SPEEDY
quote:as they were snuggled up with each other in blankets in his truck sleeping.
He took those babies on an hour long ride out to his job site to kill them.
Think about that. He had an hour to really think about what he was going to do.....and he still murdered his daughters.
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Posted on 10/12/20 at 9:31 am to Bigtime92
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To one friend: Please pray to God that I will get fricked tonight...who the hell talks like this?
A lot of women do. I don't snoop through my wife's text messages, but I've seen some texts she sends with her friends. They talk about sex as much as guys do.
Watched this over the weekend. My observations are Chris was a total POS loser and it was weird how she documented their entire lives on Facebook. The way he tried to pin the killing of the 2 daughters on his wife was just disgusting. I only know her from this show, and realize things can be edited in a way to make the viewer sympathetic to certain people, but there was absolutely no way she would have ever killed those girls. Seeing videos of those innocent girls was gut wrenching. I almost wish I hadn't watched this documentary.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 9:53 am to Pilot Tiger
again...its actually even worse. He thought he killed them once and then they got up. Said he dumped them down the thing to make sure they didn't get up again.
people that sick need to be put down
people that sick need to be put down
Posted on 10/12/20 at 10:22 am to lsuwontonwrap
If the guy hadn't confessed outright at the end, TBH this movie would've bothered me alot. The character building in this movie was done almost entirely from social media posts and texts, which is EXTREMELY manipulative. I mean, how many times did you start a video or text, think "nah, this one isn't good", then hit delete and start again? Well, nearly every piece of footage is pretty much someone's absolute best foot being put forward, so I had to take ALL of it with a huge grain of salt, if I wanted to watch this objectively.
Again, glad the guy confessed to make this an open and shut case, because this movie was asking us to take some huge leaps otherwise...
Again, glad the guy confessed to make this an open and shut case, because this movie was asking us to take some huge leaps otherwise...
Posted on 10/12/20 at 10:27 am to vandelay industries
Eh, not sure I agree. Chris's attitude and body language when he first arrived at the house just didn't portray an image of a husband concerned for the whereabouts of his wife and children. I went into viewing this knowing nothing about the story, and knew almost immediately he was at the very least involved in their disappearance in some capacity. I didn't think he killed them himself, but he knew what happened to them. He didn't seem at all concerned for them.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 10:48 am to The Spleen
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e. Chris's attitude and body language when he first arrived at the house just didn't portray an image of a husband concerned for the whereabouts of his wife and children. I
In hindsight you are correct but people handle situations drastically different from case to case. That’s why stuff like that is circumstantial evidence that can’t convict anyone because it’s not a real indicator of anything
And a lot of shitty police work gets done based on similar assumptions based on people’s reactions. I’ve seen it first hand, bad detective #1 locks onto the husband because “it’s always the husband” and wastes 8 months of investigation leaving other leads to go cold because they’ve already got their own inherent biased on the case
ETA for example, if you look into the Staircase case, where the husband calls 911 when his wife is dead he gives an passionate speech to 911 call for help. The prosecutor then uses that tape to claim he was acting to cover up the crime
So if you have no reaction- must be hiding something
If you have too much of a reaction- must be acting to hide something
It’s a lose lose and why you should always frickin lawyer up
This post was edited on 10/12/20 at 10:51 am
Posted on 10/12/20 at 10:51 am to The Spleen
Oh, he definitely seemed sketchy. I'm just saying I wouldn't take sides based on someone's content on social media. We knew he was 100% guilty, this time, because the guy was an idiot...but if this style became a new documentary trend, alot of innocent people in other situations could be fricked if they don't always post with their social media rah rah faces on, lol...
This post was edited on 10/12/20 at 10:54 am
Posted on 10/12/20 at 11:07 am to wildtigercat93
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In hindsight you are correct but people handle situations drastically different from case to case
I get that, and I'm not really using hindsight. At the time of my viewing, I made the judgment that his body language was a bit off. I didn't immediately suspect him of murdering his wife and kids, but I felt he knew more than he was letting on. I get he and the wife had their problems, so i could understand him thinking she just needed some space and disappeared for the day, but the lack of concern for his children just didn't add up. Then when he found her phone and wedding ring, and was just nonchalant about it. "Oh, here's her phone. I bet she has a lot missed text messages!"
Posted on 10/12/20 at 11:22 am to vandelay industries
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Oh, he definitely seemed sketchy. I'm just saying I wouldn't take sides based on someone's content on social media. We knew he was 100% guilty, this time, because the guy was an idiot...but if this style became a new documentary trend, alot of innocent people in other situations could be fricked if they don't always post with their social media rah rah faces on, lol...
Gotcha, and I get that point. Honestly, I don't think the documentary made Chris or Shannan look very good, but it certainly portrayed him as the murderer he turned out to be.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 4:45 pm to lsufanintexas
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it was gloriously trashy. Sad the kids were murdered but both of the adults were horrible shitty people. Not saying the wife should have been murdered but she was horrible as was he.
This was a murder documentary and she stole the show. All I could think about was how she lived on social media her whole marriage.
Posted on 10/13/20 at 10:29 pm to olemc999
Was hard to watch any parts of the kids dying. I hope he meets swift prison justice.
Also his wife was everything that is wrong with our society rolled into one insane Karen.
Also his wife was everything that is wrong with our society rolled into one insane Karen.
Posted on 10/15/20 at 11:21 am to Hot Carl
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but that dude makes me irrationally angry. I want to jump through the tv and beat him to fricking death with my bare hands like 3 seconds into every interview I’ve ever seen of him.
There's nothing "irrational" about that at all actually.
I watched this last night, and it was a good documentary.
And I liked how it was told through videos and actual evidence as opposed to a lot of narration (was there even any?). But man, when he's explaining how he killed his girls, that was gut wrenching. I've loved children in my life, but now finally having one of my own I can't fathom how someone could do what he did to his kids. Hell, even if I could understand how he could do that to another adult, your kids are part of you, man, and I can't wrap my head around someone being capable of that shite. Especially when your little girl is begging you not to do it.
And at one point that motherfricker has the nerve to say "I keep replaying that drive in my mind and thinking 'is there something I can do? Something I can change that would save my girls' lives?" Um, yes mothefricker, you could have very easily saved their lives. Just pack up your shite and leave. Don't kill their mother and then them too. That's not only innocent little girls, but YOUR innocent little girls.
Pure, unadulterated evil exists in this world, and this piece of shite is a prime example of that.
Posted on 10/15/20 at 11:30 am to L Boogie
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Shannan's mom told the court that she didn't want him to get the death penalty. She stated that he had decided that he got to take the lives of four other people, and she didn't want to have to be the one to decide to take another's life. Or something to that effect.
They generally respect the wishes of the surviving family in decisions like that.
She's a better person that I am, because I would've been pushing HARD for that fricker to die. And as someone who's family has been directly affected by both murder and the resulting capital punishment/execution, I can assure you that it made my family feel much better about things and we were able to have some closure once the piece of shite that murdered my aunt and cousins was put to death.
Posted on 10/15/20 at 11:36 am to CocomoLSU
Pushing for the death penalty ultimately just keeps the case tied up in appellate courts for years and probably decades while ending up with basically the same result because they hardly ever actually execute anyone anymore
I can see how the family could be like we just want to end this and move on
I can see how the family could be like we just want to end this and move on
Posted on 10/15/20 at 12:04 pm to wildtigercat93
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Pushing for the death penalty ultimately just keeps the case tied up in appellate courts for years and probably decades while ending up with basically the same result because they hardly ever actually execute anyone anymore
I get that. My response was based on her response about not wanting to take another life. Cuz I would be like frick that, take his life now.
Also, in the courtroom footage, when the judge convicted/sentenced him, did he have to walk out of the courtroom directly in front of the families? Because it kinda looked like that. I was waiting for someone to just punch him in the face as hard as they could.
And man oh man, I just read that article that BilJ posted...kinda wish I hadn't done that. That is even worse. And I irrationally hate men that overuse exclamation points. Like it's a legit pet peeve of mine. So frick him for that too.
But the way he was talking about his little girls, man. "Boy, little quiet Bella had a will to live." Like seriously? You're describing your little girl and her not wanting to be murdered by her daddy, which she already watched you do to her sister and knew you were about to do to her. Who the frick talks like that when describing something like that? It's like he was proud of her or some shite.
Posted on 10/16/20 at 10:11 pm to lsuwontonwrap
she was psychotically addicted to Facebook and her phone.
My sister-in-law is like that. She never just sits there and enjoys the moments...never just takes it all in.
Everything has to be paused, everyone has to be posed, she has to get 15 different camera angles. It is ridiculous. We don’t even invite her to family events anymore because she is so damn obnoxious
My sister-in-law is like that. She never just sits there and enjoys the moments...never just takes it all in.
Everything has to be paused, everyone has to be posed, she has to get 15 different camera angles. It is ridiculous. We don’t even invite her to family events anymore because she is so damn obnoxious
Posted on 10/11/21 at 1:08 pm to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Just saw this.. WOW!!! I've read through most of the posts and yeah, I don't think anyone wants to be married to that girl but what a fricking monster he was...
Not that he deserved good representation but my god, when will people learn to consult an attorney before talking to the police? That part still blows my mind.
Not that he deserved good representation but my god, when will people learn to consult an attorney before talking to the police? That part still blows my mind.
Posted on 10/11/21 at 8:47 pm to lsuwontonwrap
It took the neighbor about two seconds to tell the Cop, dude is guilty AF.
For once we get a neighbor who doesn't say, "I could never have seen this coming."
Shows how the neighborhood thought he was a piece of shite.
And how friends immediately called the police the minute they couldn't get a hold of his wife. Nobody does that with fellow adults unless you think the husband is sketchy.
For once we get a neighbor who doesn't say, "I could never have seen this coming."
Shows how the neighborhood thought he was a piece of shite.
And how friends immediately called the police the minute they couldn't get a hold of his wife. Nobody does that with fellow adults unless you think the husband is sketchy.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 9:08 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
The guy offed his entire family for some pussy. He’s evil to the core, and beyond that just incredibly stupid. I’m guessing he thought his wife and kids could just disappear and he could carry on with his side piece.
He had clearly become detached from his wife, and for that I can’t blame him. She was overbearing, annoying and mentally abusive. He had started to use lifting weights as an escape from her and he drew the attention of a fairly attractive younger women who pursued him and offered him a lot of kinky sex.
He probably felt trapped, and knew leaving would cause him financial ruin so instead of just staying and cheating or actually having the balls to leave and deal with the consequences he murders his wife and two little girls. Very clearly a sadistic sociopath. Then he blames it on his wife? What a fricking POS. The part where he described his daughter begging for her life is absolutely heart wrenching.
And just to give you even less faith in humanity he actually has scores of women writing him in prison
He had clearly become detached from his wife, and for that I can’t blame him. She was overbearing, annoying and mentally abusive. He had started to use lifting weights as an escape from her and he drew the attention of a fairly attractive younger women who pursued him and offered him a lot of kinky sex.
He probably felt trapped, and knew leaving would cause him financial ruin so instead of just staying and cheating or actually having the balls to leave and deal with the consequences he murders his wife and two little girls. Very clearly a sadistic sociopath. Then he blames it on his wife? What a fricking POS. The part where he described his daughter begging for her life is absolutely heart wrenching.
And just to give you even less faith in humanity he actually has scores of women writing him in prison
Posted on 8/26/22 at 2:08 pm to cfish140
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lol yall are sorely mistaken if you dont think your girlfriend talks about her sex life to her friends. those texts seemed pretty normal to me
Yep, guys on here must have no idea. Get a group of women together with a couple of bottles of wine.
I just finished this documentary.
frick that guy. Yeah, the wife may have been hard to deal with and all the social media stuff, but you don't freaking murder them.
The fact he killed his wife is absolutely horrible, but those precious girls... oh my God. I can't imagine a person being able to do that. I just don't understand it.
All those clips of the little girls and his wife was hard to watch knowing that pos killed them in the end.
Yeah, the neighbor knew something was up. And I think the cop in the room during the first interrogation knew it too. Asking him about the weight loss and everything.
The whole thing is sickening.
This post was edited on 8/26/22 at 2:10 pm
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