re: Amazon put out a "superfans" video about LOTR: Rings of Power

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OMLandshark

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Bro. Why can’t Goku be black? Who says he can’t? It’s not Asia. It’s fiction.

Black people deserve to be Goku.

Noticed this edit where you try to take Tolkien out of context:

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As for any inner meaning or 'message', it has in the intention of the author none. It is neither allegorical nor topical. As the story grew it put down roots (into the past) and threw out unexpected branches: but its main theme was settled from the outset by the inevitable choice of the Ring as the link between it and The Hobbit.

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…………..And? What’s your point? If you think this proves your point, it very much doesn’t.

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The real war does not resemble the legendary war in its process or its conclusion. If it had inspired or directed the development of the legend, then certainly the Ring would have been seized and used against Sauron; he would not have been annihilated but enslaved, and Barad-dûr would not have been destroyed but occupied.

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…………..Ummmm, again, And? The central theme of Lord of the Rings is the perversion and corruption of power. The fact that you don’t understand this is specifically why I said that you don’t understand Lord of the Rings because as you said:

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I loved the LOTR movies. Because there were swords and monsters and action and magic.

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Yeah, this is why teenagers and morons like Lord of the Rings. I mean, they’re perks, but not the central reason why Tolkien’s fans love Lord of the Rings. It’s all in the subtleties why this franchise is so beloved by its biggest fans and there are millions of them. You obviously don’t remotely understand this franchise.

Then don’t compare it to an established character all of a sudden being black.

You’re talking about in the entire world there should be no black elevens or people or dwarves. And comparing it to Goku being turned black (please link your thread where you bemoan Goku being white in the live action.)

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You made your opinions on Avatar clear when you weren’t trying to win an arguement.

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Mine and Scruffy’s argument on Avatar is ironclad: you can’t call me a racist when I’m equally appalled by another culture’s high fantasy’s series as being perverted if they use even my own culture and race. Yours simply revolves around calling me a racist if I disagree with you.

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Also, your argument that “whites should only be played by whites and Asians should only be played by Asians” isn’t NOT a racist.

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“So what you’re saying isn’t racist, but you can’t prove it’s NOT racist.” Ya huh, frick off with your slander.

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You don’t know what a setting is as a literary device.

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Tolkien went into thousands of pages of detail on what his setting was as a literary device. I know and carefully understand what Tolkien was going for, as do millions of other readers. He was very specific, but I guess not specific enough for morons like you. He didn’t predict we’d arrive at a point where we had to describe every single remote melanin level in their skin and height down to the millimeter. Hey, maybe Eowyn was trans. Tolkien didn’t say she wasn’t and maybe Eowyn as a trans woman can give birth in Middle Earth. You people have lost your fricking minds.

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You have said that having black characters ruins it, and that speak way more about you than it does the story or the world ability to not fall apart because someone is black.

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I mean, where did he/she come from? South of Harad I’m sure there were some, but just hanging out in the Shire? No, I need an explanation for that.

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The reason LOTR has withstood the tests do time is BECAUSE it’s themes are universal.

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bullshite. The values are western. There is no universal value. It’s idiocy like this why we invade Iraq and think we can negotiate with monsters like Putin and Xi Jinping.

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The story and the themes can withstand a character being black. You can’t. That’s in you.

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I can't believe this is still going on after ten pages lol pretty gay

Again, tell me what theme of the books is ruined by black characters.

We’re back at question 1.

You argued that setting was theme for 19 pages before Tolkien said it wasn’t allegorical for WWI and then you started talking about corruption of power. Which I guess doesn’t apply to black people?

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Again, tell me what theme of the books is ruined by black characters.

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The parts with the inexplicable black elves and dwarfs?

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Again, tell me what theme of the books is ruined by black characters.

We’re back at question 1.

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Because if there were black characters in Middle Earth it means they murdered them all between the Second and Third Ages, not that you know what either of those are.

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Good you can provide lots and lots of links if YOU raging about that.

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Yeah I’m going to go digging for hours to look up 2010 posts to prove to you, a degenerate retard, that these people aren’t klansmen that go lynch black people. Go frick your mother.

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Because if there were black characters in Middle Earth it means they murdered them all between the Second and Third Ages, not that you know what either of those are.

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You understand this isn’t made by Peter Jackson.

It’s like there being 2 different Batman franchises. Yea they want the same fans but they don’t have to follow all the same rules.

There I fixed the show for you.