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re: After Leonardo, which Ninja Turtle was the best fighter?

Posted on 9/7/10 at 8:46 am to
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 9/7/10 at 8:46 am to
quote:

which Ninja Turtle was the best fighter?

I think Raph had the skills, but was unpolished. But you can't say someone is the best solely based on potential.

Leo was the "leader," and would hand out asswhoopins, but sometimes got the big head and was arrogant.

Mike was the shite, and had the coolness to not only be hilarious, but also to kick arse doing it. But can the best really be someone who doesn't take it seriously?

Donatello was the brains, but could also kick a little bit of arse. But I agree that he's the weakest of the 4.

I think if I rank with my heart, I go:

Mike
Leo
Raph
Don

And if I rank with my head, I go:

Leo
Raph
Mike
Don

I tend to want to agree with this though:
quote:

I mean, Mike would just laugh at people while he used his surroundings to eliminate his enemies. Distraction is also a part of fighting and Mike had that going well for him with his antics.

So, to go against the norm I say Michelangelo IS the best fighter

Also, Mike had the hardest weapon to master IMO, so that has to count for something...
Posted by PnGtiger81
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Posted on 9/7/10 at 9:11 am to
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Also, Mike had the hardest weapon to master IMO, so that has to count for something...


Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/7/10 at 9:58 am to
quote:

I think Raph had the skills, but was unpolished. But you can't say someone is the best solely based on potential.

Leo was the "leader," and would hand out asswhoopins, but sometimes got the big head and was arrogant.

Mike was the shite, and had the coolness to not only be hilarious, but also to kick arse doing it. But can the best really be someone who doesn't take it seriously?

Donatello was the brains, but could also kick a little bit of arse. But I agree that he's the weakest of the 4.

i think we are exactly in line
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 9/7/10 at 9:59 am to
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PnGtiger81

Don't come in here with that Sai/Bowstaff nonsense.
Posted by TigerNutwhack
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Posted on 9/7/10 at 10:19 am to
I'd have to go with Raph on pure fighting ability. Dude could just unleash the the beast. But, as others have said, he could get goaded into being reckless (ie, Casey Jones fight).

Posted by Baloo
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Posted on 9/7/10 at 10:38 am to
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But you can't say someone is the best solely based on potential.
But Raph isn't potential. He almost single handedly fights about 100 Foot henchmen to a draw. No other turtle was near that level of actual accomplishment. (Once again, using the comic as a source)

Raph's "bezerker rage" might be out of control, but it was brutally effective. and I love that we're breaking down TMNT.
Posted by PnGtiger81
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Posted on 9/7/10 at 10:43 am to
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Don't come in here with that Sai/Bowstaff nonsense.


I can and I will. Unless you've had any actual experience with any of these weapons you cocopuff should shut up. <3

chucks are hard but not as hard as sais. fact. staff is the easiest. That's why I chose the staff as my weapon of choice.

ETA: Raphael is my answer
This post was edited on 9/7/10 at 10:45 am
Posted by Pilot Tiger
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Posted on 9/7/10 at 10:46 am to
Raphael is cool but rude....Michelangelo is a party dude
Posted by cast away
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Posted on 9/7/10 at 10:53 am to
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That's why I chose the staff as my weapon of choice.

This post was edited on 9/7/10 at 11:42 am
Posted by PnGtiger81
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Posted on 9/7/10 at 10:56 am to
but I have a vagina....does that make me Deb?
Posted by cast away
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Posted on 9/7/10 at 11:19 am to
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but I have a vagina....does that make me Deb?

sure why not!

hopefully the rock the side ponytail too!
This post was edited on 9/7/10 at 11:20 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/7/10 at 11:28 am to
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But Raph isn't potential. He almost single handedly fights about 100 Foot henchmen to a draw. No other turtle was near that level of actual accomplishment. (Once again, using the comic as a source)

i think that is the microcosm of raphael. he may have the most physical potential, but he's a hot head who gets himself into shite situations. raphael is the jeff george of the turtles, while leo is tom brady.
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 9/7/10 at 11:34 am to
Raphael was more like Andre Agassi. If he was focused no one could beat him. Leo was more like Sampras, awesome and consistent, but if he ever faced a focused Agassi (poor analogy because that was rare), he got smoked.

Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 9/7/10 at 11:45 am to
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Raph's "bezerker rage" might be out of control, but it was brutally effective.

I think most would agree that Raph is the "strongest" of the four. But he just lacked focus, like SFP said.

And just because when he was focused (which was rare) he could kick the most arse, doesn't make him the best. Leo consistently kicks the best arse, thus he is the best overall fighter.
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and I love that we're breaking down TMNT.

Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 9/7/10 at 2:52 pm to
Here's some food for thought. Out of all the weapons the turtles use, the sai is the one primarily used as a defensive weapon. What was Raph's most dangerous offensive weapon then? Himself. No other turtle can say that.

Further, Sais are mainly used to defend against long weapons, specifically swords, so Leo stands no chance against Raphael either way.
Posted by BilJ
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Posted on 9/7/10 at 2:55 pm to
how did I miss this thread?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/7/10 at 2:57 pm to
i dunno, but i posted the video
Posted by BilJ
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Posted on 9/7/10 at 3:00 pm to
I see

FTR it was donatello
Posted by lsugorilla
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Posted on 9/7/10 at 3:33 pm to
what is at the top of Bugei Jûhappan (the "18 samurai fighting art skills").

1. Seishinteki kyôyô (spiritual refinement)

and donatello had this more so than the rest

donatello didn't need to show his skill...


"Given enough time, any man may master the physical. With enough knowledge, any man may become wise. It is the true warrior who can master both....and surpass the result." - Tien T'ai
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/7/10 at 4:36 pm to
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what is at the top of Bugei Jûhappan (the "18 samurai fighting art skills")

excuse me

are these ninja turtles or samurai turtles?
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