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re: A House of Dynamite: Netflix
Posted on 10/24/25 at 10:07 pm to wareaglepete
Posted on 10/24/25 at 10:07 pm to wareaglepete
Wellll this seems like a skip now
Bummer
Bummer
Posted on 10/24/25 at 10:19 pm to Lawyered
That was super intense. Damn.
Posted on 10/24/25 at 10:22 pm to Lawyered
Bigelow is a good director. I mean, I liked The Hurt Locker. it's like there was 1/3 of a really good movie here and they just stopped there and said "OK, let's just do this 3x but from different POV and call it a day".
Great cast, thou.
Great cast, thou.
Posted on 10/24/25 at 10:42 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
frick that ending.
That movie could have gone another 2 hrs and I was locked in.
Then they end with nothing.
That movie could have gone another 2 hrs and I was locked in.
Then they end with nothing.
Posted on 10/25/25 at 1:42 am to lynxcat
Terrible ending. If the reaction they were going for is to piss the viewer off, they succeeded.
Posted on 10/25/25 at 2:01 am to wareaglepete
wtf was that?!! intense but horrible movie.
Posted on 10/25/25 at 4:17 am to lsufanintexas
Tired of Hollywood and the ambiguous endings. Seems I see them a lot lately. I’m ready for bed, tell me a story. I don’t want to make up a story. It was good acting and an intense story but they fumbled it. Kind of sad. Think Rebecca Ferguson was underutilized.
SPOILER
I think they did launch an all out attack though because of the scene showing people going into a mountain bunker. I think more than one person in the story was a foreign asset.
The Secretary of Defense went out like a bitch.
SPOILER
I think they did launch an all out attack though because of the scene showing people going into a mountain bunker. I think more than one person in the story was a foreign asset.
The Secretary of Defense went out like a bitch.
This post was edited on 10/25/25 at 4:18 am
Posted on 10/25/25 at 9:43 am to wareaglepete
The first act was totally bad arse.
Then came the second act and I realized it wasn't about the nuke and what happens, but about the decision process and the people involved.
Then the third act comes and I'm all "They fricked this up. I don't need to hear every angle of this conversation."
Then the ending - what a chicken shite way to end it.
I probably wouldn't be so upset if the first act wasn't a 10/10. I thought we we were getting Clear and Present danger 2.0, but instead we got... that.
Plus, why was Angel Reese there? LOL
Then came the second act and I realized it wasn't about the nuke and what happens, but about the decision process and the people involved.
Then the third act comes and I'm all "They fricked this up. I don't need to hear every angle of this conversation."
Then the ending - what a chicken shite way to end it.
I probably wouldn't be so upset if the first act wasn't a 10/10. I thought we we were getting Clear and Present danger 2.0, but instead we got... that.
Plus, why was Angel Reese there? LOL
Posted on 10/25/25 at 9:44 am to lynxcat
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frick that ending.
Reminded me of the 80’s TV movie from ABC The Day After but stopping half way through.
This post was edited on 10/25/25 at 9:46 am
Posted on 10/25/25 at 9:46 am to wareaglepete
Spoilers
quote] I think more than one person in the story was a foreign asset. The Secretary of Defense went out like a bitch.[/quote]
I thought for sure the guy working on that monitor in the situation room was up to something but after he left the room that was it for him, leaving it up to the viewer is definitely what they were going for.
The Secretary had already lost his wife and his daughter was about to be vaporized so he just said the hell with it. He knew what was about to happen and didn’t want any part of that hellscape.
quote] I think more than one person in the story was a foreign asset. The Secretary of Defense went out like a bitch.[/quote]
I thought for sure the guy working on that monitor in the situation room was up to something but after he left the room that was it for him, leaving it up to the viewer is definitely what they were going for.
The Secretary had already lost his wife and his daughter was about to be vaporized so he just said the hell with it. He knew what was about to happen and didn’t want any part of that hellscape.
Posted on 10/25/25 at 11:39 am to BitBuster
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Plus, why was Angel Reese there? LOL
It made me think they did that to place the President in Chicago........???
Posted on 10/26/25 at 1:19 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
quote:I did not know we could do this. How’d you get the blacked out spoiler box? And agree completely with your spoiler. The incompetence and nonexistence of a plan B was really irritating as well as the open ended ending. I’d like to hope we wouldn’t be as incompetent as was displayed in this film. There’s no GBIs in the continental US in this scenario
As it just dropped, I'll use this - who knew we could do this? LOL
Spoiler:
Posted on 10/26/25 at 1:50 pm to Who_Dat_Tiger
The more I think about it, the less sense it makes, and the angrier I get. It's freaking lazy writing, and down right insulting for them to pass this off as worthy of a drama such as this. They had a great cast. It was set up almost 24 style, but they botched it massively.
For spoilers, just format like you'd do for the other stuff, like embolden, italics, and underline. [ spoiler ] and then [ / spoiler]
[spoiler] that's how it's done done done[/spoiler]
For spoilers, just format like you'd do for the other stuff, like embolden, italics, and underline. [ spoiler ] and then [ / spoiler]
[spoiler] that's how it's done done done[/spoiler]
Posted on 10/26/25 at 2:40 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
**Spoilers**
Long post, but responding to a few different points I’ve seen in this thread:
I think that’s kind of the entire point. Pick a day and time at random and imagine we detect a launch. Now you have less than 20 minutes until impact. In that time you have to get the right people on a call, verify the launch is legit, deal with the continuity of government aspect (evacuation of key personnel), gather further intelligence, attempt to intercept the missile, and determine how to retaliate.
You have plenty of military personnel who are always on standby waiting for this kind of thing to happen, but those folks don’t give the orders. They follow them. For everyone else in Washington, it’s just a normal Tuesday (or whatever). Their lives don’t revolve around the threat of an incoming ICBM. Many will likely be distracted by worries about their families. Many will likely be somewhere inconvenient when the launch occurs.
20 minutes (and I think it was actually less) is nothing in that scenario. Especially if you don’t know who launched the missile or why.
I thought it was a pretty corny line, but there’s been plenty of speculation about the reliability (or lack thereof) of our adversaries’ nuclear weapons.
GBI is a midcourse interceptor. It has to intercept during the “coast” phase of the ICBM’s trajectory, when the ICBM is flying unpowered outside of the atmosphere. This is the ICBM’s slowest point (near its apogee) and the point where you have the widest range for interceptor location on the ground. That’s why GBI is based in Alaska, where midcourse interception is possible for missiles launched by Russia, China, and North Korea.
If GBI misses, you probably don’t get a second shot at it. Once it’s over the mainland US you’re in the re-entry phase. At that point you have a much smaller interception range (meaning you’d need interceptors located all over the country) and you probably have to deal with multiple re-entry vehicles anyway. It’s well known that our ballistic missile defense efforts have been targeted at the launch and midcourse phases for this reason.
They explained why they only launched two interceptors - we don’t have many of them and if you think nuclear war is about to break out, you don’t want to waste them. It’s true that there aren’t that many GBI’s.. only 60 or so as far as the public knows. It’s also true that the efficacy of GBI/GMD is a bit questionable.
That said, I think launching only two interceptors was the most unrealistic part of the movie. Precisely because this is such a rare event, and because they only detected one launch, I would think they’d fire enough to be sure. The Pentagon says there’s a 56% chance to kill with one interceptor, and a 97% chance with 4 interceptors. That puts you at ~80% with 2 interceptors.
The problem was that they didn’t know who actually launched it.
The whole premise - one missile launched with no warning, and we don’t know who did it - is obviously highly unlikely. But again.. that’s kind of the point of the movie.
Long post, but responding to a few different points I’ve seen in this thread:
quote:
But damn, there’s an array of fumbling & bumbling by key players that’s super annoying to watch. Indecisiveness, bad phone connections, ridiculous background noises, sick children, and about five or six other trivial encounters that needlessly distract people at the worst time.
I think that’s kind of the entire point. Pick a day and time at random and imagine we detect a launch. Now you have less than 20 minutes until impact. In that time you have to get the right people on a call, verify the launch is legit, deal with the continuity of government aspect (evacuation of key personnel), gather further intelligence, attempt to intercept the missile, and determine how to retaliate.
You have plenty of military personnel who are always on standby waiting for this kind of thing to happen, but those folks don’t give the orders. They follow them. For everyone else in Washington, it’s just a normal Tuesday (or whatever). Their lives don’t revolve around the threat of an incoming ICBM. Many will likely be distracted by worries about their families. Many will likely be somewhere inconvenient when the launch occurs.
20 minutes (and I think it was actually less) is nothing in that scenario. Especially if you don’t know who launched the missile or why.
quote:
"sometimes they do that" WTF? Really? That's how ICBMs work? Or don't work?
I thought it was a pretty corny line, but there’s been plenty of speculation about the reliability (or lack thereof) of our adversaries’ nuclear weapons.
quote:
i hated that we only sent up 2 missiles to get one, but after that, there was no Plan B to intercept.
quote:
The incompetence and nonexistence of a plan B was really irritating as well as the open ended ending. I’d like to hope we wouldn’t be as incompetent as was displayed in this film. There’s no GBIs in the continental US in this scenario
GBI is a midcourse interceptor. It has to intercept during the “coast” phase of the ICBM’s trajectory, when the ICBM is flying unpowered outside of the atmosphere. This is the ICBM’s slowest point (near its apogee) and the point where you have the widest range for interceptor location on the ground. That’s why GBI is based in Alaska, where midcourse interception is possible for missiles launched by Russia, China, and North Korea.
If GBI misses, you probably don’t get a second shot at it. Once it’s over the mainland US you’re in the re-entry phase. At that point you have a much smaller interception range (meaning you’d need interceptors located all over the country) and you probably have to deal with multiple re-entry vehicles anyway. It’s well known that our ballistic missile defense efforts have been targeted at the launch and midcourse phases for this reason.
They explained why they only launched two interceptors - we don’t have many of them and if you think nuclear war is about to break out, you don’t want to waste them. It’s true that there aren’t that many GBI’s.. only 60 or so as far as the public knows. It’s also true that the efficacy of GBI/GMD is a bit questionable.
That said, I think launching only two interceptors was the most unrealistic part of the movie. Precisely because this is such a rare event, and because they only detected one launch, I would think they’d fire enough to be sure. The Pentagon says there’s a 56% chance to kill with one interceptor, and a 97% chance with 4 interceptors. That puts you at ~80% with 2 interceptors.
quote:
Even if a country fired a 'dud' at a major city, that's still grounds for retaliation.
The problem was that they didn’t know who actually launched it.
The whole premise - one missile launched with no warning, and we don’t know who did it - is obviously highly unlikely. But again.. that’s kind of the point of the movie.
Posted on 10/26/25 at 7:09 pm to lostinbr
The 'rogue' launch scenario is indeed scary. Bad guy #1 could park a sub off the coast of any number of other bad guy countries, and make it appear THEY fired off... sort of a Star Trek 'undiscovered country' scenario.
From the situation as laid out in the show, 1 missile incoming, I'd think it best to knock it out of the sky first, then worry about 1 to 1 matches of any follow up missiles. As mentioned, you don't just casually sit by and watch 10 million fry and a major city get wiped off the map. But because the movie had to happen....
If MY spouse is working at a missile defense site, calls me up and starts shouting at me to drive west - NOW, knowing their job & all that it's implied, grab and go. All this "Whaaa??? C'mon now, what are you saying? Let's just talk this out and you can explain it to ..." - NO!!!!! Man, I HATE that crap when they do that stuff in movies / TV. You're gonna have that conversation, however unlikely it may be. If it's just a code word, a text, something... bug out now, explain stuff later. So annoying.
From the situation as laid out in the show, 1 missile incoming, I'd think it best to knock it out of the sky first, then worry about 1 to 1 matches of any follow up missiles. As mentioned, you don't just casually sit by and watch 10 million fry and a major city get wiped off the map. But because the movie had to happen....
If MY spouse is working at a missile defense site, calls me up and starts shouting at me to drive west - NOW, knowing their job & all that it's implied, grab and go. All this "Whaaa??? C'mon now, what are you saying? Let's just talk this out and you can explain it to ..." - NO!!!!! Man, I HATE that crap when they do that stuff in movies / TV. You're gonna have that conversation, however unlikely it may be. If it's just a code word, a text, something... bug out now, explain stuff later. So annoying.
Posted on 10/26/25 at 7:10 pm to gizmothepug
quote:
About 30 minutes into it and I think Netflix hit the mark with this one.
Spoilers
I'm about 30 in as well. I pray our military and Washington arent as inept as they are in this movie if someone launches a Nuke at us.
This post was edited on 10/26/25 at 7:26 pm
Posted on 10/26/25 at 7:30 pm to Esquire
quote:
I recently read Nuclear War: A Scenario by Annie Jacobsen and this looks pretty similar.
This movie is essentially the first third of this book, with more emphasis on the characters instead of just the their roles in the government. I enjoyed the first third of the movie but I was not a fan of the perspective change just to get more details on events we have already seen. The time would have been better spent showing us the response and aftermath.
They were correct on the amount of missiles we have to shoot down incoming ICBMs and they may have overestimated the success rate because the book said 40% chance.
I’m hoping this movie doesn’t deter Denis from truly adapting the book eventually.
Posted on 10/26/25 at 8:25 pm to wareaglepete
Had the potential to be an awesome movie. Spoiler alert:
Maybe they should have finished the damn movie. I think it led to an all out attack from an adversary. The movie really captured the human drama and decision making.
Maybe they should have finished the damn movie. I think it led to an all out attack from an adversary. The movie really captured the human drama and decision making.
Posted on 10/26/25 at 8:26 pm to gizmothepug
quote:
The Secretary had already lost his wife and his daughter was about to be vaporized so he just said the hell with it. He knew what was about to happen and didn’t want any part of that hellscape.
Me personally, if my whole family was gone and it was just me, I might want to hang around and rampage through the post-apocalypse a little bit.
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